3/5NL 500 max
No history with villain he has ~900 we cover
Villain is mid 30's Asian, haven't seen/played with him before and played one orbit before the hand comes up
Hero late 20s young gambler type, has spewy image with most regulars at the table



I move seats to villain's right and post $5 two off the button, folds to me I check my option with QQ

BTN is predictably aggressive Asian regular who's iso'd limpers with as low as 94o (650 effective).

CO (villain) opens to $75 in green chips while shuffling a stack of greens like a deck of cards

Folds back around and when I'm sitting there thinking he says 'you're not going to call' --- I elect to call


Flop (~155): T94

I check, villain snap bets $225 in green.



Thoughts on pre and postflop?

I think I want to get it in. I feel like these massive preflop bets are enormously weighted towards specifically JJ, and are weighted away from KK and AA. Pre is fine. Flop is a decision, but I think I'm just gonna get sticky or shove now. Shove now seems optimal against JJ as we look like we flopped nut flush draw or combo draw.

Given no read / history, I don't mind the flat. I call it off, but I don't love it. While AA/KK/JJ is of course possible, I think its more likely he's on a draw himself. If he unloaded the clip with a set (unlikely), make a mental note.

Reraise pre. I really dislike the limp/flat.

As played, either check/shove flop or flatting is ok. Flatting is somewhat dangerous since it's such a wet board. If we flat, we need to be prepared to call off just about any turn jam.

It's ok to mix in some checks when we post with premium hands, especially when BTN is overly aggressive, with the intention to 3bet.

I also dislike the check/flat pre. As played you can raise or call.

Check/flat pre is fine IMO especially because villains who open to $75 tend to also bet huge on flops, and are usually prepared to gii with top pair or better. Plus we have no reads/history.

I'd just rather give myself the opportunity to chk/gii on a 334 board than I would to 3bet/fold or 3bet/gii pre. Obviously it sucks if we check/fold a 6AK board and are shown JJ, but I think we more than make up for that occurrence on better flops

Check/flat pre is terrible compared to check/raise. QQ is such a raw equity crusher and we're OOP. Missing so much value...

Thanks for your guys' input.

@Keaton @Jarretman, as played (checking the option) why would we want to reraise here and I assume we are snap calling a jam? IMO it seems better to see a flop and keep his AK hands I'm flipping with in, along with any random hand he's spazzing with in, with the initiative.

My original intent was to squeeze pre and get it in, but the sizing threw me off.

Readless, everyone seems to be advocating getting in QQ ~200bb deep vs. a 15x open in this specific spot?

Agree that given his line it looks a lot like JJ and less likely KK-AA, and less 99-TT given most players don't snap overbet with flopped sets.

Forgot to mention in the OP that we have the Q. Am still scratching my head to think of any draws he could have here besides AK that would 15x pre.


Note this guy instantly acted both preflop and flop, which made me discount random suited junk (not sure if anyone agrees with how this live read translates to his hand selection)

From my experience huge opens like this pre are VERY rarely KK+. We absolutely crush his equity with QQ and we look full of **** when we check/3bet and we're OOP.

If your original intent was to 3bet pre and gii, this ridiculous raise should incentivize you even more to 3bet/gii

I'm not sure which 2/5 games you play, but where I play, it is a rare villain type that's willing to go to the felt 180BBs deep with JJ pre (not to say they don't exist - I posted a hand where someone called off 340BBs with JJ pre, but that's rare).

Yeah we're ahead of his open range. But check/3betting a 15BB open is going to look extremely strong. It definitely does not look FOS to most villains I play with, in games where limp reraising strong hands is completely commonplace, and the fact that there's no dead money to squeeze out makes us look even stronger. If we 3bet and villain shoves, we may very likely be behind the shove range enough so that a fold might be better.

Preflop is totally fine, IMO.

I agree with all this, and it doesn't feel like villain will find a fold pre. So I'm happy to inflate this pot as much as possible as quickly as possible, and am prepared to get it in.

Also, if villain just calls the reraise, the pot will be massive going to the flop and villain will have a tough time getting away from many hands.

Preflop I dont mind you had a plan it played out how you wanted so like the call.
As other have stated a limp reraise just looks way too strong and even most maniacs can see that.
As for the flop am happy too raise it it just feels like he on the draw with such a massive over bets.
Calling just doesnt seem like a good idea as SPR is about 1 and there are a few turn cards that van really put you in a tought spot may as well raise and get it in

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Pre is fine, threebet would be fine too.

Shove now.