Hello, I'm new here so please bear with me if I make any mistakes.

this is a hand that I played recently at 2/5 and would like some feedback
the main V in this hand is a tight passive player and does not seem competent at all. made a strange comment earlier that "he can't fold his hand" and tanked for a little bit before calling when he was holding the nuts and facing a shove. also was very tilted when two overs hit the flop when he had pocket jacks.
anyways, on to the hand
UTG limps. Hero opens QJss to $25 UTG+1
UTG+2, the main V calls
4 more callers including UTG who initially limped


Flop ($150): 2s3s3d

UTG checks.
Hero c-bets $100
UTG+2 snap shoves for $525
everyone else folds and its back to hero.
hero?

Fold. Probably check the flop versus 5 people too.

Agree, this is either A3s or a hand like 1010 that he's randomly decided is good because there aren't any overcards.

His bet is freaking HUGE which slants him more towards A3 imo.

You described Villan as tight passive and he just put $500 real dollars in the pot. I lean towards a fold but it's not a terrible price ($425 to win $775). I'm thinking a passive opponent isn't doing this with 44-TT ever, especially 6-ways. And those are the hands you want to be up against if you are looking for reasons to call.

Best case, you have around 50% equity against 44 - TT. Worst (likely) case, you have something like 25% equity. You're essentially dead against the unlikely but possible 22, 33.

Passive player wants to play for stacks. The best case scenario is optimistic here.

Easy fold. If he flashes a bluff, make a note that he's not all the way passive.

A tight passive who ships like that 6 ways has 3x 90% of the time and an aneurysm the rest. You need better odds than that.

Its a good move him shoving. Now you can never profitably call, at best your against small pair, worse a 3 or a higher flush draw, ugly spot. I check flop and see a turn for cheap.

I lean more towards our equity being 25%. Players (especially passive players) don't usually do this with over pairs. It's usually a set or A3. I would check the flop OOP in a 6 way pot.

Why is V scaring away overpairs if he has A3 though?

afraid of the flush coming

Yeah. Just check the flop too.

Are we calling if the board wasn't paired? Like 237ss?

Nope - would consider it if I had the NFD or a combo draw, but if a tight passive ships on 237 two tone, we're up against a set like every time.

looks like a fold.
What I don´t like though is everybody jumping on the "tight-passive" label like it´s a foregone conclusion this guy we have only two vague hand histories with and probably saw playing around 100 hands is playing a stereotype style like we knew his game in and out.

If hero described villain as
"total fish. earlier, he was holding the nuts facing a shove, and seemed to be genuinely confused. He even tanked and made some strange comment before he finally called. Later, he was visibly tilted when he had JJ and saw two overcards flop. All in all, we got a passive vibe, but the guy really had no idea what he was doing."

I think if you wrote it like that in the OP and just left out the unholy "tight-passive" label, you would get different responses.

Against worse case scenario:

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

25,740 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 233

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
JsQs	24.94%	6,417	3
A3, 22, AA, KK, QQ	75.06%	19,320	3

just add in a few pairs, and as well some 34s, 35s which would not surprise me at all if they were in a button clickers range:

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

47,520 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 233

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
JsQs	33.85%	16,085	3
A3, 22, AA, KK, QQ, TT, 99, 88, 34s, 35s	66.15%	31,432	3

all of a sudden this gets pretty close.

summary:
I really don´t like the word "tight-passive" if we can´t really back it up with prolonged history.

I can't see a fishy-like player shoving $500 (the real money value is important in this instance) with QQ- on this board. And V didn't 3bet pre so hard to assign him KK-AA.

I agree that this is somewhat unlikely.
I was just pointing out the in my opinion a little biased responses who seemed to center around the word "tight-passive"

I give V a range of AA,22,33. Fold

Also fold pre utg+1. Don't open this until mp.

lol @ fold pre I mean come on this is live poker not 10 tabling zoom we see maybe 30 hands per hour

On to the hand I'd stove vs AA and if pot odds to call w a flush draw then do so, if not, then fold

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