I think I'm calling here.
You block Q10, KJ and AJ. Also, I'm thinking AJ might raise pre.

With his turn bet I don't think he likes the board pairing with a weak blocker bet. So, I'm thinking he can have Q10, Random Kings he's turning into a bluff or a busted draw.

Good question: Differences are,
1) this is 3 handed and
2)your villain donked into you after you raised preflop. This is a very strong line by your opponent....

I’m with GG on this while hand

Absolutely limp here bc fish will limp/call w better hands a good bit. And your hand is fine but not baller.

I’d rather have a smaller pot w QJo then say pocket 4s where I know where I am at.

If there is a specific fish you want to I do and barrel, that’s fine—happy to do that w way worse but that was not indicated.

Sizing was too big for your hand quality as its bow a bloated mess for a middling trouble hand. For all these reasons I prefer a limp.

On flop, maybe it’s a crying call. Quite honestly if you not folded all these middle pair situations vs blandish regs you’d probably wind up ahead a good bit in the long run. They aren’t getting silly when a one card straight hits.

Turn punches you in the face and you should be raising or betting every chance until the hand is out.
Not that you’re golden, but why even bother calling the 35 if you aren’t planning to wager all your chips on trips?


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I think the mistakes were not folding flop and raising turn. We've set ourselves up for a cooler here because we have a good 10th best hand here that we don't want to let go and priced ourselves in for.

If he shows up with a hand we beat, I'm marking this guy as a whale for the future.

Call river obvi.

nh

PS: regarding your earlier point about having 34 value combos on the flop, you shouldn’t be iso’ing 16 combos of QT. At best you have the four QTs combos.

Results?


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I’m about as sticky as they come and the flop is an easy fold for me. You’re probably behind, you have very few run outs that you’ll love, you have no FE. Just lay it down big man.

AP i’m Beating V into pot on river.

Late to the game here, but here is what I do:

Pre: over limp. Can get behind raising QJss due to its barrel equity, but nit QJo.

Flop: AP, I think this is a fold most of the time. Our draw stinks (3 clean outs to potentially chop) and V has us beat I would say at least 75% of the time here.

Turn: I raise this turn and likely fold to a bet/3! line from V. I understand others rationale for calling here, but I think a K is still going to call, especially one that has some kind of draw with it (KQ/KT). I would make it $125-$130 to go.

River: AP you have to call since our hand is very under-repped given we have played it like a Heart draw and river changes nothing (I discount T8 in V's range because I don't think he leads both flop and turn when board pairs J's).

Interested to see the result of this one.

And the spaz factor was in full effect


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Late to the party. Pre is basically exactly what I would've done. I hate over limping in position when there's a good chance we can either take it down pre or get heads up in position. Flop I think is a fold but a call isn't horrible. This flop hits people's ranges hard, someone led 2/3 pot into you and you are not closing the action. Your implied odds are not gonna be good if you do improve, and there are few turns that are gonna be good to bluff (not that you're deep enough anyways). But you do have position and if you get heads up, it's a very advantageous position for you since he will likely give you a lot of information about his hand. If you are gonna call, you are basically calling to either suck out or bluff him off a king if you don't.

Turn is an obvious raise. Unless he's being tricky with his 1/3 PSB which most 1/3 players won't do, it's a nervous blocker bet likely with a hand like KT trying to figure out where he's at. Raise small enough to entice him in then shove most rivers.

EDIT:

Didn't see that you already disclosed river and showdown. River is weird. You are getting great pot odds but it's suicidal to bluff. Boats are the only value hands that make sense. I think QT shoves on the turn due to the flush draw. Call cause of pot odds. He just needs a few combos of busted draws.

Preflop: fold>call>raise. QJo not on the Btn. Still have multiple players to get through, not including two who have already vpip. Not a very versatile hand that makes ****ty top pair.

As played, easy flop fold.

Are you not open raising QJo in the CO? If you are, why should you tighten up your range when two players limped in (who are likely bad since they limped) and there's a good chance to win $10 uncontested or be in a heads up pot in position?

If you aren't, good luck to you.

Iso ranges should be tighter than opening ranges, no? Since there is significantly less chance of stealing/less fold equity ?

Maybe Folding QJo here is too tight/nitty and a mistake. But the reasoning of “you’d open it therefore you should raise it over a coupe limpers” isn’t right.

I completely disagree. ISO ranges are when you have late positions and are isolating a mark at the table. That should be a wider range than opening with a table folded to you. If you aren’t picking your villains strategically, then what do you mean by “isolating.”

Also, if you want fold equity, 3 bet hard and c-bet thereafter.


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Finally someone who understands.