Borgata Casino. 1-2 NL. Around 1 AM.

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Button: You have been playing with villain for about 2 hours. When you first sat down he seemed like a pretty predictable non-thinking TAG. But as the night has gone on, he has amassed a huge stack of chips (he's on a big heater) and has been drinking A LOT. As a result he's started to raise a lot preflop- i'm guessing around 35%-40% of his opening hands in a 7-9 handed game. He has gotten sloppy in bets after the flop and will bet fairly large on flop and turn without much thought to opponent's stack size or range.. Despite raising a lot preflop, he never 3bets preflop.

Big Blind: a very spewy LAG/TAG. He has bet all three streets in position and Out of position with a huge range. he likes to defend his blinds and straddles and will 3bet with a wide range as a form of defense though often his 3betting sizes are too small to fold out his opponents.

The rest of the table has been playing pretty tight and passive poker.
Onto the actual hand: 8 handed. Effective stacks of about 300.

UTG straddles for 4.
Hero is UTG +1 with QJ and makes it 15.
Folds to BUTTON who calls. Big Blind calls. UTG folds.
3 handed. 49 in pot.
Flop: 389
BB checks, Hero bets 30. Button raises to 75. BB folds. Hero calls.
Turn: Q
Hero checks, Villain bets 100. Hero shoves for about 210 total.

Thoughts on all streets are welcome.

I'm particularly interested on flop bet and my call.

Not quite sure what your plan was.

First off, qjs isnt worthy of a raise from early position...I prob limp/call

Second, after the flop, fold. Draw heavy board and you are basically drawing to a gut shot & even if you hit it the flush could come


Even if you hit your queen or jack like you did, that q or j could easily complete a straight ir flush

At this point, a straight a flush or a set are all in v's range.. So are hands with two pair. You can say that you are pot committed at this point but I don't see anything he's pushing with that you can beat

Not enough implied odds to call with your hand; pre is fine and I probably cbet 25 but also fold to the raise.

As played; spewy as hell. Why are you jamming when you only get called by 2p+?

This is really bad advice. If you don't feel comfortable opening with QJs then you should just fold pre.

Stacks are pretty shallow here given the straddle so I think a fold is probably the best option pre. If it wasn't straddled, I'd be fine with a small open to $6 or $8.

Cbet on flop is good but have to fold to a raise here. Shove on turn is pretty terrible.

Well id tell him to raise before id say fold...qjs isnt great but it can bring down some big pots. What exactly is wrong with limping with them? Trust me i am not a huge fan of limpers but i feel like this is a hand to do it with

indifferent to a limp or raise here . but since most of the tables playing tight passive poker id prob raise to $18 after the one limp of 4 if im reading this right. if it was folded to you id open to $14.

id cbet flop for 1/2 pot and fold to a RR, you don't know if you have any clean outs other than a gutter that's not a spade and your oop.

Preflop: fine, but erring on the side of spewy if you're 9handed. It wouldn't be so bad without a straddle since you could open for 8.

Cbet: pointless. No better hands are folding (except maybe k hi). From your descriptions both your opponents are calling light in this spot. The cards that improve your hand fill possible draws, so you're possible drawing practically dead.

Calling raise: spewy. I really don't know what your plan is here.

Turn: Really bad. Even if your opponent's range didn't have you crushed he's getting fantastic odds to call. You'd have been better off shoving the turn. Still bad, but you at least might get some folds. I can't think of any hand that's folding here. I guess maybe A9 with the As could call. That's about it.

I have a feeling this is one of those "hero was actually the villain" threads

Pf is standard for me. Flop call is OK to catch a 10 and seeing v's action. Turn jam is total spazz.

Thanks for the comments guys. A question:

If we think villain is raising hero on the flop with 8X, 9X, straight draws, flush draws, sets, two pairs, and we think he barrels all those hands on almost any turn, is the flop call and turn/ check raise still spewy?

Why do we want to c-bet this flop? This doesn't seem like a great flop to c-bet with a player behind.

Yeah it's still spewy, you shouldn't presume that he raises flop with 8x or even 9x when there's two players behind. He might just call with his draws too. If he was raising the flop with a 9 then it's unlikely he bets turn, he'd probably shut down so when he continues you beat nothing. Every draw got there and sets/2pairs are still crushing you.

I probably just call the straddle pre btw, as played i'd check give up flop.

There aren't two players left to act behind. the blind has checked and I bet so he has position on us both.

I'm not presuming he raises with 8X and 9X, I'm simply asking a theoretical question, IF he did raise flop/ bet turn with that entire range is the play still bad?

What are you going on about, you bet, he raises, the bb has to then act and you also have to act, therefore he's raising with two players left to act.

Turn is spewy regardless, but i'm not doing the leg work for you, you're the one that's constructing this theoretical range so go ahead and count the combos of whatever you think his turn raise range is.