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07-12-2017 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven
Correct, this is not considered close to a "big game" in Htown. And I was taking a 1k shot, so by no means am I rolled or bragging.


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What shot are you taking now for 1k when in your original post (Yesterday at 7:21 PM) you stated that you got $500 shorter stacks. Where the 1k (Today at 11:10 PM) is coming from? - Is this a realistic situations? - From where the extra $500 currency is coming from. Who given you the extra $500? - Why are you trying to obscure the financial reality of the transaction? ..., and .., How can I trust you with your description of your action and the table conditions when not even the correct amount of big blinds we don't know. How am I suppose to focus on the poker problem/hand when I suspect something doesn't add up?

here is what you post before:
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Originally Posted by Hell2Heaven
I am playing in a 1/3 game, jungle rules (straddle anywhere, for any amount), that has been getting extremely deep. Players stuck for $8k-$30k. The game is mostly recreational players with plenty of money who just like poker.

I have been playing more live NLHE recently, and wanted some comments on my thinking about large PP in a game with large preflop and post-flop multiway action. An example Scenario below.

$25 button straddle, folds to
Hero [$500 one of the shorter stacks]: limps straddle UTG with QQ (90% of time straddle is raised)

Last edited by outdonked; 07-12-2017 at 12:45 AM.
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07-12-2017 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
a super monster game where people have stacks of $30K and you have the little $500 candy change.
ONCE AGAIN, without expecting it will do any good, OP said people are STUCK $30K.
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07-12-2017 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BadlyBeaten
ONCE AGAIN, without expecting it will do any good, OP said people are STUCK $30K.
Yes wtf is your point?
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07-12-2017 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
yes, .. right !

If your game is so big why not say it that is a 25-50 and end all the BS and show-off. Why even mention 1/3 if you straddle anywhere for whatever you want?

Why even posting questions related to your super game of Biblical proportions on our little LLSNL where we talk about normal games (1/2, 1/3 and 2/5) where stack to bb ration makes more sense?

Still, I don't believe your story. Since you ask what to do with QQ in a super monster game where people have stacks of $30K and you have the little $500 candy change. The first villain that picks up AK will just shove all-in on your Queens. What you gonna do? - Go for even money with all your little $500 buy-in on the line not being able to show a profit in the long run? ..., Good Luck!

What? ...., What! ... what profit are you showing with QQ vs. AK?

(you have to lose it 10 times and win it 11 times by the time you double-up)
There are better ways ..., oh well ...,
I think you're confusing me with OP. I've never seen someone lose $30k in a night at my game. The most anyone has ever lost in a night in my 1/2 game is probably $5k. $30k is obviously a ton, but just because you can't conceive of it based on your experience in games on the Strip doesn't mean it's inconceivable in some clubs in the city.

Also, there are a ton of good reasons why clubs prefer to play deep stack games for low stakes rather than games with more normal stack sizes and bigger blinds. We talk about raising our game stakes all the time, and never bothered. A couple of the best reasons:

1. These club games are illegal, and there's a concern that some holla-balla 10/20 game will attract more unwanted attention from cops, criminals or cheats than a 1/2 game.
2. These games need to bring new players in the door to survive. Most of the clubs have one or two tables. No one wanders in from the pit to go play poker. No one has a good night at the 1/2 table and decides to go up in stakes. No tourists saunter by looking to have a good time on vacation. Much easier to attract a new player, particularly a relative novice, to a 1/2 game.
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07-12-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BadlyBeaten
ONCE AGAIN, without expecting it will do any good, OP said people are STUCK $30K.
Yes ..., right!

People have huge stacks and some are stuck $30K and you are taking a shot with $500. Oh, Yes .., now everything makes sense. All it's clear.

I have no idea how to play your QQ because the situation comes from another world. It doesn't feels real.
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07-12-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
I think you're confusing me with OP. I've never seen someone lose $30k in a night at my game. The most anyone has ever lost in a night in my 1/2 game is probably $5k. $30k is obviously a ton, but just because you can't conceive of it based on your experience in games on the Strip doesn't mean it's inconceivable in some clubs in the city.
Sorry about, ..

Yes, .., Now I realize that was not you but the OP with the out of this world story of $30K. This is like we are all monkeys and have no enough experience of what's going on in a 1/3 NL game.

Or if the game is playing like $25 straddle or so then why even come here on LLSNL and describe a situation that doesn't have nothing in common with our games? - Now, how I suppose to understand his QQ situation when I have in my mind that some players are staked 10,000 big blinds? ...- Listen pardner ..., 10K BB in 1/3 game !!!!

So, the OP has $500 roll or 167bb but on the other hand some imaginary dudes are stacked 10,000 big blinds and some other one probably has 5,000 big blinds stacks. Now, what I suppose to say about his QQ?

The entire situation it's out of this world and doesn't balance with reality that I'm used here in Vegas all my life. I don't know what to say but at the same time I don't want to be taken for a ride by some dude that I have 2x poker years experience of his age. I know what's going on at the table and I also know all the con plays in the books. I always know when people lie to me. Always.

Have a nice Day!

Last edited by outdonked; 07-12-2017 at 02:06 PM.
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07-12-2017 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by outdonked
Now, how I suppose to understand his QQ situation when I have in my mind that some players are staked 10,000 big blinds?

but on the other hand some imaginary dudes are stacked 10,000 big blinds
OK, let's try this one more time!!!!

There are three DIFFERENT words: stake, stack, and stuck. Try saying each word once, to see the difference.

The THREE words mean three DIFFERENT things. OP said some players were STUCK $30K. Stuck, stuck, stuck. NOT stake!!! And NOT stack!!!
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07-13-2017 , 12:40 AM
please shut up
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