Game is 2/5 NL (AVG stack $700)

HERO ($2200) UTG+1 88
Villain ($900) CO
[Villain is obviously tight and not making a move over limpers, His range I am giving him in this spot is JJ+ AQ+. He is a dealer and knows the game but I think his strategy is limited to just playing tight and knows how to cbet and/or bet his good equity draws]

HERO limps, 4 callers, villain raises to $50, HERO calls.

FLOP ($110)
J73

HERO checks, Villain bets $80, HERO?

SIDE NOTE:
Is anyone folding pre?

There is a second part I want to discuss, which is what I did. I will post spoilers in another thread (my PG&C) with the part 2 after this part is discussed. I'll post it in a hour or two.

You have a marginal hand OOP that is highly unlikely to improve. 21/53 combos in the range u give villain r crushing u and the other 32 combos may well improve. I'd fold w/o a soul read.

Btw, I am folding to villain's raise pre. Very hard to play 88 profitably in the described situation.

Don't like open limping. Open raise. But w/e.

Fold to the raise. You're not deep enough to set mine, and you're oop with 88.

As played, I don't understand the question on the flop. Easy fold.

18:1 is fine, plus there are other limpers who could call between improving the odds. preflop is OK. not great, but OK.

i'd fold the flop against said player. i don't think he's betting A high air here very often.

I agree with folding the flop. Being first to act here is a ****ty spot, because even though you can be good (V could have AK, right?) we still have 4 other people to worry about, most of whom probably check TP to the raiser.

Edit: My bad, I thought the hand was multiway (if so, I fold). If not, I peel one and re-eval OTT, because that is a great flop for V to c-bet HU.

IMO if you are gonna call a raise without proper odds anyway, you might as well just raise yourself. You limp because you get good odds to setmine, limp/calling seems silly.

You're right. I was thinking it was 10:1 for some reason.

Yeah I'm calling the raise.

I was thinking I flop a set and take a stack vs his tighter range.

Yeah I thought the board was a very dry flop and I should be missing a large amount of times in his eyes. Basically I figured that he can only continue with the overpair part of his range if I was to go for a c/r... play a like a set you know... I want to do the math for how likely it has to work to profit assuming he folds all his missed overs (which I think is reasonable knowing the villain) but I'm posting from a phone right now. If I call he could check turn if he doesnt improve or go for a double barrel on Q+ turns. I'm not sure which would be better.

I think c/r would be a better play than calling assuming he snap folds AQ+ because if we call he we have to deal with his double barrel range which we just cant continue against. Thoughts on this? Obviously I'm not ruling out folding either and think it is likely the best play but just for theory sake.

I agree, don't like the open limp - raise first in. Easy fold, you missed your flop and your done. FYI: I would open raise or limp behind any other limpets with 88 from any position. It can be profitable but VERY easy to get away from. Don't forget the 8% rule!!

Continuing after this flop against the described opponent is pretty criminally spewy. Flatting pre isn't terrible if you have at least one mouthbreather left to act behind you who is going to stack off if he/she flops TP. But as most have said, I'd rather open 88 if I'm going to flat a 6x-10x open.

Flop is a pretty easy c/f.