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02-20-2017 , 11:01 AM
I'm looking to add a few hours of poker homework to my weekly regiment, and am looking for recommendations. Do you do any work on your game outside the poker room? What is most valuable for a serious hobbyist like myself?

Has anyone used Flop Falcon or anything similar that they can recommend? I checked in the Software sub and couldn't find anything useful

Looking forward to your input.
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02-20-2017 , 11:52 AM
Analysis of hands and the decision making process of how you came to your decisions. Don't put too much weight into the results due to the vagaries of poker. Instead you should be focusing if you're making correct decisions and if not, why are you making mistakes?

Key to homework, is the understanding of why you are doing something and volume. Too little and you don't know enough, too much and you become robotic, find your melody.
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02-20-2017 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
Analysis of hands and the decision making process of how you came to your decisions. Don't put too much weight into the results due to the vagaries of poker. Instead you should be focusing if you're making correct decisions and if not, why are you making mistakes?

Key to homework, is the understanding of why you are doing something and volume. Too little and you don't know enough, too much and you become robotic, find your melody.
Thanks for the response. Do you use any specific software when you do your analysis?
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02-20-2017 , 01:28 PM
It is really difficult question to answer since we don't exactly know where you are on your poker journey. Judging from the threads you made, you recognize that you tend to struggle in situations where you have a decent hand in an absolute sense, but are facing pressure. I suggest that you start studying about the differences between absolute value and relative value.

Areas I don't think you've recognized as leaks yet include:

1. Profiling. I'm sure there are threads on 2+2 on the subject, but you need to start understanding how certain stereotypical players think about situations. One of Harrington's books has a good outline. In the 60 year old woman raising thread, you should be throwing away everything but the near nuts without a better read, for example.

2. Planning. You seem to enter a lot of pots without a plan in place on how to win the hand if you don't smash the flop. If you don't have a plan on how you could win the pot when you miss the flop under certain conditions, you shouldn't be calling. If the circumstances don't come up, you fold.

3. Calling. You need to do less of this. Sure the button is a nice place to be, but it doesn't mean you play a bunch of trash because you're a position whore.

I don't think you're at the point yet to do much serious equity calculator work yet.
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02-20-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
It is really difficult question to answer since we don't exactly know where you are on your poker journey. Judging from the threads you made, you recognize that you tend to struggle in situations where you have a decent hand in an absolute sense, but are facing pressure. I suggest that you start studying about the differences between absolute value and relative value.

Areas I don't think you've recognized as leaks yet include:

1. Profiling. I'm sure there are threads on 2+2 on the subject, but you need to start understanding how certain stereotypical players think about situations. One of Harrington's books has a good outline. In the 60 year old woman raising thread, you should be throwing away everything but the near nuts without a better read, for example.

2. Planning. You seem to enter a lot of pots without a plan in place on how to win the hand if you don't smash the flop. If you don't have a plan on how you could win the pot when you miss the flop under certain conditions, you shouldn't be calling. If the circumstances don't come up, you fold.

3. Calling. You need to do less of this. Sure the button is a nice place to be, but it doesn't mean you play a bunch of trash because you're a position whore.

I don't think you're at the point yet to do much serious equity calculator work yet.
I laughed pretty hard at all of this. I appreciate constructive criticism where I ask for it, in the threads that I start about hands. I don't think you've ever given it to me in those.

I read Harrington's books years ago. They were much more relevant then. Also, not that it matters, but I snap folded to the 60 yr old woman. I just posted the thread to make sure I wasn't being too nitty long term, and as a discussion starter for others.

Thanks for the help.
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02-20-2017 , 03:37 PM
^You do understand that your original question was pretty general though, right? Every decent player does homework away from the table, as do lots of bad ones. It's hard to know what would be the most helpful suggestions for an individual person.

I find it illuminating to explore how different ranges do on various runouts in Equilab, but a beginner's not going to benefit much from that, and Phil Ivey already knows it like the back of his hand. I'm guessing if you're asking about Flop Falcon, you'd probably get some value from it.
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02-20-2017 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay S
^You do understand that your original question was pretty general though, right? Every decent player does homework away from the table, as do lots of bad ones. It's hard to know what would be the most helpful suggestions for an individual person.

I find it illuminating to explore how different ranges do on various runouts in Equilab, but a beginner's not going to benefit much from that, and Phil Ivey already knows it like the back of his hand. I'm guessing if you're asking about Flop Falcon, you'd probably get some value from it.
Thanks Jay. I definitely recognize that my question was general, but I'm just trying to get a feel for what other players are doing to work on their game, to get a better idea of things I might like to try to work on my own.

For example, I'm now googling Equilab.
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02-20-2017 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JacetheMind
I laughed pretty hard at all of this. I appreciate constructive criticism where I ask for it, in the threads that I start about hands. I don't think you've ever given it to me in those.

I read Harrington's books years ago. They were much more relevant then. Also, not that it matters, but I snap folded to the 60 yr old woman. I just posted the thread to make sure I wasn't being too nitty long term, and as a discussion starter for others.

Thanks for the help.
I was going to give you some genuine advice, but if this is the way you're going to respond, then I won't bother wasting my time.
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02-21-2017 , 01:45 AM
As a break-even to slightly winning player (over a relatively small sample size) who's just getting back into the game, I've found some of the resources here to be invaluable. Particularly, reviewing and thinking through the concepts discussed in the best of LLSNL directory
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02-21-2017 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I was going to give you some genuine advice, but if this is the way you're going to respond, then I won't bother wasting my time.
Cool man, have a good day.
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02-21-2017 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustin_J
As a break-even to slightly winning player (over a relatively small sample size) who's just getting back into the game, I've found some of the resources here to be invaluable. Particularly, reviewing and thinking through the concepts discussed in the best of LLSNL directory
As have I! I very much enjoy reading through past concept of the month articles specifically. Welcome back to poker.
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