I have pocket Qs in mid-position in 2/5 live. Under-the-gun limps, and the player two behinds raises to $25. Villain has 3-bet to $25 under-the-gun several times, presumably to isolate the under-the-gun player. I re-raise to $75, and it folds back to Villain, who re-raises me to $225. I call. The flop is 5, 5, 2, rainbow. Villain bets $135, I call. Turn is a blank, maybe an 8. Villain bets $250, I push my remaining $540. Should I put my entire $900 stack at play with this hand. If not, when should I bail?

Pretty sure pre is a jam or fold. You are either going to go with the hand or not since you're not getting the right price to set mine when you only have $900


I'm eliminating TT and JJ from his 4-bet range, since I doubt he would want to re-open the betting. Plus, it's really rare that anyone 4bets those hands. It's possible he plays a "4-bet or fold strategy" but you have him odds to set mine and most opponents gladly would jump on that, as well as having hands in their "3-bet call range"


Because of that I would probably fold pre. AK still has 50% equity against our hand, and 4-bets are much more weighted toward KK+ than anything else. These guys aren't balanced.

As played, his bet sizing pretty much eliminates bluffs from his range. If he had A high he would have set up his bets to jam the turn. Not milk you for 3 streets. I would have definitely folded by the turn.

Other posters are going to chime in and say crap like how our opponent can have 99 in this spot and he's putting you on 77 and some other complete horse sh** that never happens in live poker. People play cautious as f*ck in these situations and show up super nutted. They don't go for 3 streets with 99-JJ and would 4-bet those hands like 1% of the time.

If he's the type that his 3-betting and 4-betting wide, his borderline maniac style would have become obvious to you and pre would be an easy jam. If he kind of just blends in with every other typical player than his range is probably the same as everyone else.

Unless you've specifically seen villain do some crazy ****, you need to fold preflop to his 4 bet.

Thanks for the thoughts. I planned to go all the way, if no A or K hit the flop.
I thought his range was wider than AAs, KKs, and AK.

That's fine if his range is wider, but it needs to be considerably wider and you cant just be guessing or "hope" its wider. You need evidence to risk 180BBs.

It's all player dependent. I called a 5 bet shove for almost 200BB's the other night with QQ. Against the population it's a snap fold pre but don't tell anyone you are folding it.

And it's all percentages. Even if his range is wider than AA-KK that still means sometimes he will have AA or KK.