My first time playing in a poker club with the security cameras and the whole dealio. I'll give the description of the hand as best as I can from memory:

$1/2 NL Stacks ranging from $100-400

UTG Calls $2, Fold, MP1 Calls $2, MP2 bets $7, CO KK (Hero) Raises to $17, Btn folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 Calls.

POT: $71 FLOP:

10 8 7

UTG checks, MP1 All In ~$240+, MP2 Folds.

Hero has about $120 in chips left behind him. What to do here?

Raise more pf, I probably stack off here

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Try to keep at least 100 BBs in front of you at all times.

Raise more PF. I'm thinking $21-$25. 3betting always looks really strong, so there's no reason to 3bet so small when you have a monster.

In other words, $17 3bet looks just as strong as a $25 3bet. So you're losing value by not making it larger.

As played, I think it's a fold OTF. Shoving into a multi-way pot on this board texture is pretty strong.

Calling, but you put yourself in a bad spot. Gotta raise more preflop.

I would have done a $22 PFR

fold otf

I'd probably call here. You're behind AA, 2 pair, a straight, a flush draw, or a set. I don't think hands that make 2 pair or a straight would call preflop. AA would probably 4-bet. A set would probably check to the raiser and let you bet for him. I'd probably put him on QQ, JJ, Ax of hearts, or maybe QJ of hearts. With your stack I think I'd have to call the shove.

I would have 3bet to about 24 preflop but on the flop, if he has a flush draw we have about 40% equity. A little more (about 58?) if he's on an OESD. We are much more behind sets and two pair (who get scared when theres two hearts and a str8 draw, which is why they jam it). this would be an easy fold unless you like flipping at best.

I am assuming you called his made str8?

Yeah I'm not like fist pump calling here but the odds are too good and while we will see sets here on occasion we aren't that far behind 2 pair and I see so many weird draws in spots like this (T9/89/99/etc) that I think calling is fine.

Didn't stove it so I might be wrong.

I stoved it... this is actually an easy call.

We need to call $120 to win $311, so we need 38% equity vs. villain's range.

Even if we know he has a made hand (not a draw), we're getting the right price to call.

Board: Th 8d 7h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.677% 37.23% 02.44% 14745 967.00 { KcKs }
Hand 1: 60.323% 57.88% 02.44% 22921 967.00 { KcKh, KdKh, QQ-JJ, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, 8c8h, 8c8s, 8h8s, 7c7d, 7c7s, 7d7s, Tc8c, Ts8s, 8c7c, 8h7h, 8s7s, Tc8d, Tc8h, Tc8s, Td8c, Td8h, Td8s, Th8c, Th8s, Ts8c, Ts8d, Ts8h, 8c7d, 8c7h, 8c7s, 8d7c, 8d7s, 8h7c, 8h7d, 8h7s, 8s7c, 8s7d, 8s7h }

preflop is way too small. flop i don't really care. preflop bet size is the thing you need to improve on.

I'd remove the two combos of kk,.1/2 the combos of qq and add in some combo draws but I expect the results will be similar

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In this situation, pretty much every single molecule, my gut, was telling me to fold this because the post-flop aggressor's body language just looked super strong, like even if someone shoved him all-in, he wouldn't think too long before re-shoving. I ended up calling because I figured I was getting good odds against a made hand, but he ended up turning over a set of Tens, at which point I had about 10% chance of winning. The only reason I called was because I thought I was getting the pot odds and convinced myself that a top 3-of-a-kind would have likely slow played it, no?

In general, do you recommend/justify raising between $22-26 because it is double what's currently in the pot? or is there any other rationale?

The issue isn't that he had a set here but dies he show up with a weaker hand enough to call. I don't hate calling and I don't hate folding but I think folding is, in general, better.

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With an SPR of less than 2x and draws in villians shoving range, this is an absolute call. Outside of a very strong live tell, I don't understand how a fold is a consideration.


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(Equity, Win, Tie)
Player 1: 59.6% 57.5% 4.19% [KsKd]
Player 2: 40.4% 38.3% 4.19% {TT+, AKs, AhQh-Ah2h, KhQh, AKo, ATo}

Board: [Th 8d 7h ? ?]
Deal To: River
Dead Cards: {}

Monte Carlo Simulation: 500000 trials

I agree with most posts, pre-flop three bet should be 25ish.

I mean calling is better

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I think saying it's a call because you stoved it is fallacious because it assumes all the possible hands you stoved are weighted equally which is prolly not true.

Well stove does combinatorics but the range he posted is awful.

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Yeah, $17 is way too small pre. I would go $25-$30. As played call.

Ah yea, you're right. No reason to have KK in villain's range. But yea, if you throw in the combo draws, the results should be comparable.

stoving is fine, but if you create such a horrible range, better give it up. i mean, do you really expect villain to open shove in a multiway pot for 3 times the size of the pot with AKo? AT? every nutflushdraw? but never with 88, 77, or J9? geez...