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🐟JJ vs KK 🐟

1/2 NLHE HARRAH'S

Villain (BTN) - 40-50ish yo white man. Glasses. Curly hair. Looks like a nerd. He comes from a broken game with around 1300ish. He's only able to sit with 700 which matches the biggest stack at the table. This man seems intelligent and a lot more competent in poker.

Im UTG w/ JJ open to 10. Folds around to BTN who 3-bets to 35. Folds around to me I call. Flop (73): Kd 6s 4d. Check/check. Turn (73): 8h. I check again. BTN bets 50. I call. River (173): 4x. I check. BTN bets 100. I call. He turns over pocket kings for full house.

Alarm bells should be going off when somebody 3bets and then checks back a K high flop. It usually means either they have QQ and the K scares them, or that they have KK or maybe AK and don't want to bet you off your hand. Sometimes AA will check back flops too for pot control. If villains ever 3bet TT or AQ they're usually going to bet this flop with those hands, so the fact that villain checked back flop actually probably strengthens their range against JJ. Therefore unless you have some other live read to go on, I'd probably check/fold turn. Definitely check/fold river.

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Yeah, I'm just folding the turn.

There are like 1,000,000 Harrah's in the US. Which one?

Sorry, yeah this is just bad play.

What is your stack size?

With the limited info you present, here are some comments/pointers:

When a stranger joins a game, try to evaluate them immediately. This is hard of course but some "general" assumptions help. If he has a huge stack (1300 is huge here/even 700 is huge to 1/2) assume he is good player, not just lucky.

When getting involved in a big pot with a deep stacked stranger who you know little about, assume he doesn't bluff until you've seen otherwise.

Put your villain on a range of hands. What hand(s) did you think he had here that were worse than yours?

With info you've given I fold this preflop against a 3bet OOP against a "good player" unless we're deep enough to set mine with our JJ

Don't post results yada yada you'll get biased results

Fold turn though. What do you suppose his range is for 3betting preflop?

I'm actually more inclined to fold because of the flop check, I'd expect someone to cbet most bluffs on that flop

^^ all of this

also you're not getting a good price on the turn either

I think the turn check-call is defendable, as your check flop; check-turn will often induce a stab/bluff from a late position Villain.

The river check-call is just bad. Unknowns don't bluff flop and river enough to make this a good call.

ya, as a general rule just fold turn here. if you were playing vs a skilled player with a 3bet bluff range then you can call turn. however at 1/2 assume all opponents are bad and wont be making big bluffs until shown otherwise

If it's Harrah's AC I would call to set mine, but fold after that flop. At worse he has AK and most of those nits won't even 3bet AK so they are 3betting AA and KK only.

If it's new orleans or another property, I couldn't tell you, but the Harrahs AC is a total nit fest in the morning.

As played your turn call was pretty bad. I would just check fold the turn.

Pre is fine, as you are deep enough to set mine assuming you match his stack.