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plays it self out? plays it self out?

01-31-2015 , 02:25 PM
2/5

stacks/image
V1 300
is OK player raises are usually weak usually A 10+ 55+ doesnt play too fancy just ABC poker

Hero 400
Is usually LAG but was card dead for a long while so didn't really play that many hands have played with both V1 and V3 before so they know what I am like if they have been paying attention

V2 370-390
had not played many hands and seem to be on the tighter side when betting out he always had the goods

V3 120ish
Super passive will limp everything in any position or if raised will just call from AA down if she is in the hand she is usually got TP+


UTG raises to 15
Hero is UTG+1 86
I dont usually play these hands in EP but raise was weak and the table is very passive I know this has a about a 80-90% this just gets called by a few people but not 3 bet by anyone there
Hero decides to call
3 other people to call
short stacker who I didn't see moves all in for 35
PFR (V1) just calls as does everyone else

POT is 217.5
6 9 5
V1 checks
hero bets 130
V2 thinks about it for a good while and elects to calls
V3 pushes all in for 90
V1 folds

Turn is 10
hero ???? is this a shove given the SPR stacks?
I was thinking on the flop that I was pretty much going to shove on any turn card given that V2 only had 225 left behind after he called.
Is this right mind set to have or is it just better to check/call on the turn then trying to push the action as only better will be calling me or does this hand just play it self out?
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01-31-2015 , 03:46 PM
Fold pre. Effective stacks suck for suited gappers, and your OOP.

AP, there's already $130 in the pot, so I guess I call the raise. Problem compouded by your bad call the first time, though.

AP to flop, this is 100% a shove. You have a pair, gutshot and FD, so you're doing well against anything that calls except bigger FDs, so you want to push them out. You're 75% against the short stacker if he has all pairs and AT+.

AP to turn, you have almost no FE, but you have a little. GII, I guess. This iffy play for your stack all starts by a bad call PF though.
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01-31-2015 , 03:48 PM
Preflop is silly bad. Even if you're 100% guaranteed to never be 3bet it's an easy fold. Your hand sucks against the opener's range plus loads of opportunities for action behind you. There is a huge huge difference calling here from UTG+1 vs. calling from BTN. The former (your action) will probably be almost universally acknowledged by this forum as terrible, while the latter is fairly reasonable, if up for debate.

Once you take this flop AP, whatever, as long as you don't fold, your specific line/betsizing won't make too much difference. Preflop is a major mistake; whatever you do on the flop/turn isn't that big a deal. Begin at the beginning.
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