I'm not an experienced NL player - I perhaps have 150 hours under my belt. I always buy in for 100 BB.

I have noticed some trends in my results - namely that only pairs and AK/AQ seem to be profitable hands. Big pairs by winning dead money (raise pre, bet flop, everyone folds), small pairs by flopping sets against big pairs (raise flop and GII), and AK/AQ by winning dead money (raise pre, bet flop, everyone folds).

suited connectors seem to just lose by whiffing draws or losing to stronger hands even when they hit.

part of this is being results oriented. part of this is because postflop is hard with weaker hands in nl.

it could be thought that the best way to beat 1/2, though, is to play just pp's, AK and AQ? that would make your vpip less than 10%.

has anyone tried this strategy over a big sample and shown good results? does nitting it up to around vpip=10 = robusto?

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GG is our resident rock. He wins at an impressive clip over a relatively large live sample size. It's not the only way and certainly not the best way, but it works.

Yeah, it works a lot better than people give it credit for. A lot better

Boring? Yes. Not maximizing EV? Yes.

Still better than FPS’ing it up yet and thinking you’re the cool kid yet GG’s winrate is wiping the floor with you. Respect for him, even though he can be hardheaded. Well, who isnt when they win a ton of money from playing cardss? lol

It's a completely legit strategy, and for anyone starting out, I'd recommend it as a default.

There's a reason that those OMCs can hang around for hours at a table. If they're losing it's only very marginally, and I suspect a lot (perhaps most) of them are break even and winners, though almost certainly never crushing

People talk a lot about balance, but that only matters if people are paying attention. The same calling station, that pays off the LAG with 3 streets of action with top pair vs. a set, is the same calling station that pays off the nit, because he's not altered his play.

Not much of your winnings comes from bluffing and/or playing a wide range for balance.

The biggest area that nits generally fall down is not value betting enough.

My last 1291 hours I've been playing what I call a Super Nit strategy at my 1/3 NL game. I went to this strategy for many reasons (devastation of increasing rake, decreasing moron factor of opponents, etc.) that I won't totally get into here.

$16.94/hr over those 1291 hours. 5.66 bb/hr. Nothing to write home about for sure. I also had an early terrible downswing included in that, and post-downswing I'm at a slightly more respectable 6.32 bb/hr over the last 958 hours (but anyone can cherrypick results, so whatever). But it was better than what I had been doing in my previous 1307 hours at 3.97 bb/hr leading up to that, where I was coasting on my strategy that had killed for my first 2000 hours at 9.44 bb/hr but I finally came to realize the game conditions had changed. Obviously lol at all these sample sizes, so whatever, but it is what it is.

My Super Nit strategy is more-or-less basically:

- BI / topup to 66bb stack
- ~0% preflop raising range in EP/MP (only thinking about raising in CO+); it's all about seeing a super high SPR flop or a super low SPR flop (by limp/reraising), and any SPR inbetween sucks (but I play to my wheelhouse)
- EP limp: 77+/AQo+/ATs+ (i.e. pretty tight)
- MP: might start overlimping a little wider than EP if some marks in the pot and passive players behind us, but otherwise really similar to EP range
- CO/Button: 22+/Axs/ATo+/anybroadway/prettymuchanytwogapper (i.e. fairly loose); and if effective stacks are 66bb, we simply can't get out-of-line here with raises (only top of our range, otherwise mostly just overlimp, although could consider getting somewhat out-of-line if blinds are tight against 0/1 limper)
- SB: I'm probably way too loose in the SB, but it's fairly similar to my Button range simply because I know I'm likely to see a flop for incredibly cheap / great immediate odds, but I'm beginning to think I'm underestimating being OOP and should be tightening up more here
- BB: like the SB, only raising very tight top of our range, just seeing a flop otherwise

Regarding facing a raise, especially at this stack depth, I almost never continue with anything remotely speculative unless I'm like ~closing the action after a lotta callers. But even then I often simply dump 66- / suitedconnectors (opponent dependent) as I'm not convinced of their profitability in these spots.

Is this method going to crush for 10+ bb/hr at a typical 2019 low stakes / non-deep / high rake game? Absolutely not. But the real question is whether any style will.

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