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playing top set on a spade flop playing top set on a spade flop

09-09-2018 , 12:31 PM
utg makes it 9 dollars
hero untg+1 flats with pocket 7s
utg=2 flats

hijack flats
bb flats

flop

753


utg+1 makes it 15


here is the thing all of the stacks were less than 100 or around hundred, except utg+2 who had 227.

so i decided to just shove thinking, if someone has a flush i will take my 34 equity against them now and maybe utg has like an overpair and i put him in a tough spot for his remaining 60 dollars with so much money in the pot.


obviously the bad thing is i don't really expect someone to fold a flush and i am getting my money in badly vs a flush and who knows if i just played it normally maybe i get to see the river and only lose 40-50 bucks on the hand.
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09-09-2018 , 01:55 PM
Trouble is you're forcing folds from a lot of hands that you can get value from and you're definitely getting it in vs flushes. You probably won't ever get the NFD to fold whatever you do either so maybe better to just play it out and see what happens...

Last edited by Ragequit99; 09-09-2018 at 02:07 PM.
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09-09-2018 , 02:06 PM
Call flop. Call board pairing turns, jam rivers, and call if getting right price on spade turns. Fold if you don’t improve otr.
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09-09-2018 , 02:16 PM
What are the player positions? You flatted in UTG+1, but then said UTG+1 leads out for 15. Was it UTG the lead out for 15?

I think shoving is not a great option here. The majority of his range is composed of two overcards with a single spade. By shoving, we fold out a lot of the hands that we beat, and only get looked up by made flushes, and possibly some NFDs. I like a minraise better than a shove in this spot.
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09-09-2018 , 02:24 PM
Oh never mind, I just noticed that we aren't very deep. I guess Villain started with 90? In that case, your shove is just a pot-sized raise, which isn't that bad. We should be getting looked up by all NFDs.

But I think a better play is to flat the flop, and then shove any non-spade turns. This will allow other players to tag along on the flop, with their spade draws. That will amount to a lot of additional dead money that you'll pick up when you shove the turn. Seems optimal.
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09-09-2018 , 04:33 PM
Shove looks good, $15 is small relative to the size of the pot, we don't want to give cards that cheaply on this texture

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