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Playing A K offsuit from the small blind Playing A K offsuit from the small blind

02-25-2018 , 12:23 PM
I am playing 10/20 cents live , full ring. We are around 50 dollars deep, both me and my opponent.

There is 40 cents straddle on the utg, few people limp in and button opens to 2 dollars.
I look down at A K and 3bet to 8 dollars from the small blind.
Action folds to the button, he thinks for a while and tosses in the call.

Pot $17
The flop comes 2 4 6 .
When he called on the button I put him on pairs of 9s,10s,jacks or some strong ace such as AQ or AJ.
I decided to check it on the flop, we were pretty deep and i wanted to see how he acts.
Action goes check check on the flop.

Turn pairs the board and brings 3rd spade. Board is : 2 4 6 4 . I decided to bet 8 dollars into 18 dollar pot on the turn turning my hand pretty much face up after that check on the flop.

I thought paired board improved my hand equity and i wanted to get some value from weaker aces and in case i get called by a pair i will still have chances to improve on the river.

The opponent goes into the tank and shoves his remaining 42 dollars. I dont think he would ever do this with a turned flush, but would try to go either for smaller value or just cold call me and raise / bet me on the river. I did play this hand weird but would he really shave allin with 9s pair of 10s or jacks?

I could have slowplayed aces although my check on the flop was weird in that case.

I thought i played my A K pretty face up and that he picked up on that fact and tried to bluff me on the river with same hand ace or weaker ace together with spade in his hand. I'm considering a call since he was tanking for like 3 minutes before he shoved allin. Thoughts?

Last edited by Garick; 02-25-2018 at 12:33 PM. Reason: removed results, cleared up format
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02-25-2018 , 12:54 PM
Welcome to the forum, OP. I cleared up your format a bit to make it easier to read and removed results (your final decision is considered part of the results) as they bias people's responses. In the future, please just get up to your big decision and stop there. We usually post "Hero: ?" which is short for "what do you think I should do in this situation."

We really need some information on your opponent ("Villain" in traditional 2+2 terms) to know some more about how he plays, or at least what he's like if you don't know much specifically about how he plays, but unless he is completely awful, the turn is a snap fold, in my opinion.

First, he should rarely be bluffing on a paired 3-flush board unless he is really bad. Yes, your check on the flop and small bet on the turn don't represent much, but this is a very dangerous board for bluffing.

Second, he has bet $34 more in to a pot that was about $33 with his call of your turn bet. That means that if you call, you need to be good over 1/3 of the time. Without any spades, you are in bad shape even against his bluffs. Most of his "bluffs" will be a pocket pair (half of which include a spade) or at least have a big spade in his hand. That means that even if you hit on the river, if it is a spade you will often still lose. Against a range of "bluffs" like 88-JJ and AJx/AQx/AKx/AxK, you only have 24.73% equity. You are being asked to pay 33.66% of the pot, so it's a fold even if he's always semi-bluffing. Add made hands in to his range, and it is an even more obvious fold.
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02-25-2018 , 12:59 PM
I found him semi pro player. First night i was playing with that person.

Here is the problem.In that specific hand i showed much weakness by how i played it.

Would he really shove allin on the turn with made hands? (Nut flush on the turn) And in case he had pocket pair 99-JJ it is still wierd play.He didnt need to turn his pairs into a bluff ,i just didnt consider it as a possiblity. Why would he shovepair of 9s + on that board? That overbet just made no sense to me.

I placed myself in his position. I would never shve value hands on that turn against opponent that showed as much weakness as i did. Would i shove a pair? I dont really think so. If my oppoint is bluffing i will call him on the turn and consider my actions on the river. Will you ever get called by worse when you shove 9s 10s or jacks in that spot ?

I was pretty sure he didnt just put his money in with some random hand. I just found his play looks most like a semibluff with blocker.

Last edited by Garick; 02-25-2018 at 01:25 PM. Reason: readability
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02-25-2018 , 01:23 PM
What country do you live in where semi-pros play 10cent/20cent?

A couple of posting tips. Please use paragraphs. Walls of text are really hard to read. Also, I don't know if English is your first language and I'm not trying to pick on you, but "shaw" isn't a word in English. The word is "shove."

As for why PPs might shove, they might be afraid of another spade coming, so they are trying to get you AX range to fold out its equity. If you want to discount the PPs and made flushes, feel free, but you can't take them out of his range completely.

Beware of "mirror-imaging." Just because you wouldn't do something, doesn't mean that your Vs wouldn't. If everyone played the same, we wouldn't make money.
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02-25-2018 , 01:31 PM
I played around 4 hours with that guy and i noticed he is playing decent. There is just lot of fishes on this table and he wasnt one. Misscalled him semi-pro, i dont think he is living off poker but he knows what he is doing. And yes, thats exactly what i did , i discarded his pairs after the flop check and the turn allin shove.

I am from Serbia.

Last edited by Garick; 02-25-2018 at 01:36 PM. Reason: removed reference to results
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