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Playing AQ from the blinds Playing AQ from the blinds

06-22-2018 , 05:28 AM
$1-$2 NL Cash Game

Players:
UTG ($200) = Lag Fish. He often bets to see where he is at and folds to future aggression.
MP ($350) = Lag Bluffer. She plays a wide range of hands and often bets them hard both when she hits and when he does not.
CO ($220) = Moderate Lag. Calls loose and regularly bets when checked to.
Hero ($400) = I should be seen as tight-aggressive. I have not been caught getting out of line.
BB ($100) = Loose-Passive. Plays straightforwardly

UTG raises to $8 - MP raises to $25 - CO calls --
Hero is in the SB with AQ and calls - BB calls - UTG calls
Pot = $125
5 Players

Flop: JT8
Hero checks - BB checks - UTG checks - MP checks - CO bets $75 - Hero calls - Rest fold
Pot = $275
2 Players

Q
Hero checks - CO checks
Pot = $275
2 Players

9
Hero pushes allin for $120 effective ...


Did I play all four streets wrong?
Please advise.

--CM
Playing AQ from the blinds Quote
06-22-2018 , 05:59 AM
The only horrible plays are pf and flop. What do you think the MP's 3 bet range is? How does AQo do against that range? On the flop if you hit your outs, the odds of the villain continuing is low. You need them to stack off with their hand to justify the call.
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06-22-2018 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
The only horrible plays are pf and flop. What do you think the MP's 3 bet range is? How does AQo do against that range? On the flop if you hit your outs, the odds of the villain continuing is low. You need them to stack off with their hand to justify the call.
Preflop is horrific. I mean, its blatantly bad. Please don't ever do this again. Call a 3 bet of an UTG raise with AQ? UGH!

If you never ever called a preflop raise in your life no matter what you had it would be better than this. Id rather 4 bet all in with AQ than call here. I hope I got thru to you how bad this is. No matter how good you thought AQ looked when you looked at your cards, its trash now. Tough love, Sir.

Last edited by MikeStarr; 06-22-2018 at 09:12 AM.
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06-22-2018 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Preflop is horrific. I mean, its blatantly bad. Please don't ever do this again. Call a 3 bet of an UTG raise with AQ? UGH!

If you never ever called a preflop raise in your life no matter what you had it would be better than this. Id rather 4 bet all in with AQ than call here. I hope I got thru to you how bad this is. No matter how good you thought AQ looked when you looked at your cards, its trash now. Tough love, Sir.
Bolded is my exact thoughts when I read this hand.
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06-22-2018 , 09:47 AM
fold pre
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06-22-2018 , 09:53 AM
OK, but the opener and 3 bettor are described as "LAG fish" and "LAG bluffer" respectively. Is this still such a clear fold pre, given that? Or can we actually consider cold 4 betting this in this spot.
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06-22-2018 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 8ballJunkie
OK, but the opener and 3 bettor are described as "LAG fish" and "LAG bluffer" respectively. Is this still such a clear fold pre, given that? Or can we actually consider cold 4 betting this in this spot.
If the MP player is known to 3bet light even over an UTG open from MP, then yeah jam all in. But I didn't see anything specifically saying she has a wide 3betting range or has even been seen 3betting at all.
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06-22-2018 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 8ballJunkie
OK, but the opener and 3 bettor are described as "LAG fish" and "LAG bluffer" respectively. Is this still such a clear fold pre, given that? Or can we actually consider cold 4 betting this in this spot.
As I said, its better than calling preflop. After re-reading the description of the CO that bet this flop, I dont mind a crai if I somehow got to the flop this way. Runs some equity numbers vs hands that CO could have and its not half bad.
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06-22-2018 , 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8ballJunkie
OK, but the opener and 3 bettor are described as "LAG fish" and "LAG bluffer" respectively. Is this still such a clear fold pre, given that? Or can we actually consider cold 4 betting this in this spot.
We absolutely can, but I think the point is we don't have to. This is a high variance spot that is marginal at best. With this line up just wait for stronger value spots and better position.

So yeah, fold pre.
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06-22-2018 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
fold pre
In this preflop situation, what range of hands do you play?
AK/QQ+ ?

And by rule, is our entire range in the small blind either a fold or 4bet?

Thanks for the advice.
--cm
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06-22-2018 , 05:56 PM
Like everything else, it depends. In general, I don't have a 4 bet range. I'm fine with calling with AA because it protects my other calls. In this particular case, I'm fine with even set mining here against someone who's going to bluff hard and likely stack off trying to push me off my hand. I don't like AK in this situation because the other aces and kings are likely to be busy.
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06-22-2018 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CoranMoran
In this preflop situation, what range of hands do you play?
AK/QQ+ ?

And by rule, is our entire range in the small blind either a fold or 4bet?

Thanks for the advice.
--cm
Personally I think any pair is a better call than AQ which is a dominated hand. At 1/2, from my scrub league experience, 3!s are for some players on JJ or higher. For others, it's only KK or higher lol
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06-22-2018 , 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoranMoran
In this preflop situation, what range of hands do you play?
AK/QQ+ ?

And by rule, is our entire range in the small blind either a fold or 4bet?

Thanks for the advice.
--cm
vs a 3bettor raising over an under the gun raiser? My range is aces and kings usually, especially without any reads in 1/2. If I have reads on the players range, for example, if I know UTG opens wide and the MP player 3bets wide we can easily gii with AK or even AQ for 100 big blinds or less effective.
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