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Peppermill 3-5: QJs in SB -- It's Tough to Realize Equity Out of Position Peppermill 3-5: QJs in SB -- It's Tough to Realize Equity Out of Position

12-15-2019 , 02:46 PM
3-5 NLHE (no buy-in cap) Reno Peppermill.

Villain is a very loose gambler, nice guy, here to have a good time. He is playing lots and lots of hands -- for example, in mid-position (5 spots off the button) he had open-limped with 8h2d and called a raise to $40, and wound up winning the hand with a one-card heart flush.

(I am not sure what my image is. I have been folding a lot, raising when I played a hand, and winning the flop c-bet war. I have won one large pot when I opened Ac3c in the cutoff, and got called down for three barrels when I c-bet a King-high club draw board, barreled on the Qh turn, and overbet the pot on the 6c river; opponent had flatted the button with KQo. So in general the other players should know that I have some gamble in me, but the villain in the hand hadn't been at the table when this hand happened.)

This is my hand: Nine-handed game. Villain ($500, hero covers) UTG+1 open-limps, another limper in late position. Hero is in the small blind with QdJd, elects to raise to $30. BB folds, Villain calls, other limper folds. $65 in pot after rake.

Flop: Ad Kd 7s

Hero has the nut flush draw and gutshot straight flush draw. Hero bets $30, villain calls. $125 in the pot.

Turn: Tc

Hero now has the nut straight with a redraw to the nut flush and (if the Td hits) a royal flush.

Hero . . . ?

I am feeling shaky on all three decision points, first whether or not to raise QJs in the small blind against two limpers; QJ makes some top-pair hands, but if it flops a draw it is tough to realize equity out of position, especially multiway.

Second, I flopped a nutted big combo draw, and was unsure whether to bet, check-raise, or check-call. I elected to bet because I thought I had some fold equity.

Finally, on the turn, when I make the nuts, I am in great shape. I am not afraid of being outdrawn; there are only a few two-pair combos that can beat me. At the same time, there are river cards (like a diamond) that can kill my action if the turn checks through.

It is difficult for me to range the villain because his starting range is so wide.
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12-15-2019 , 02:54 PM
Keep the story. Half pot again. $65.

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12-15-2019 , 03:02 PM
completing or raising PF are both fine.

AP fire again on the turn. I think we extract the most value by continuing to bet. He has hands in his range the turn could have improved (KT/AT/QJ). He could have smaller suited diamond hands (seems like he’d play any suited hand PF and won’t fold FDs based on description.

All of these hands in his range are more likely to get value from OTT. I would prob go $100.
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12-15-2019 , 03:52 PM
I go $40 Flop, $115 turn. Good spot to size up because he has a lot of hands that can continue on this board and his calling range is likely inelastic
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12-15-2019 , 05:43 PM
idk why you worry?
you got the nuts, the whale must have a ton of Ax/Kx he limps calls pre, bomb the turn and make some more money
must iso pre, QJs is well ahead of their limp/call ranges
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12-16-2019 , 04:48 AM
This guy doesn't fold and is drawing (almost) dead with hands like TP+GS, smaller diamonds, 2p, etc. I size up here so we can stack him on river. Bet 100
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12-16-2019 , 09:34 AM
Pre - Maybe $35+ since you are OOP.

Flop - $40.

Turn - with money cards out there, I'd go at least $100.
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12-16-2019 , 08:09 PM
Bet larger pre-flop and flop, taking it down right away a good result. As played, bet again, consider sizing up closer to full psb if villain is sticky.
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12-16-2019 , 10:25 PM
I am not a big fan of raising this pre, OOP. If I did, I might go bigger, really trying to get some folds from the limpers.

I like the flop bet. You kind of have the non-ace hands locked up. He probably doesn't limp good aces. You don't need to bet big to get a lot of folds. You build a pot in case you hit. You are beginning to tell him he needs to fold a king, a 7, or maybe something like 88 or perhaps even a bad ace. You don't want to check and let him get sticky with a K.

Now that he has called once, it is time to blast away. Hopefully he has K7 or A7 or will just never fold an ace. Maybe he has worse diamonds, in which case this is usually your chance to get value.

It's hard to imagine he has floated this flop with the intention of bluffing.

You might sometimes try to milk a weaker hand like a bad A or a K, that you were planning on really putting to the test if you missed. But I'd want to base this on a Postle like live read. In general, I'd just play this hand like the nuts the whole way through on almost all turns and rivers.
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