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Parx 1/2 how to play? Parx 1/2 how to play?

02-07-2014 , 02:20 PM
Going to play playing poker 1/2 Live at parx frequently now, probably two or three times a week for couple of hours. I was there yesterday and noticed that almost everyone limps every pot. How do I play against players that limp almost every playable hand?

I witnessed a hand where a player limped in MP with KcQd.. 4 way pot everyone checks down the entire hand and this guy won value betting the river after hitting a queen.. This hand sticks out to me because I would raised to 7 dollars with my eyes closed preflop if I was this guy. However this is how a lot of hands played out..

Is this just a weird table that I happened to be placed into? Almost everyhand there were at least 2-3 limpers the least..

I ended up walking away after 2 hrs with +100 dollars but I was playing extremely tight and won most pots before showdown.

Should I only be raising with premium hands in position? Should I be limping every playable hand also trying to flop the nuts?

What is the best way to exploit this type of play?
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02-07-2014 , 02:40 PM
Standard pre-flop raises at Parx are $10-$12 with no limpers. Maniacs will make it $16-20. Plenty of hands get limped like you said but if you are going to squeeze you better make it high. If 5 players limp and you make it $20 from the SB expect to see at least one and often 2-3 callers.

I hate using the term TAG and really hate when every other post on here says "I was perceived as TAG. V was TAG." Just adjust to what the table is giving you. Try not to limp from EP too much because a lot of LP players raise it up but if your table is weak I think limping in MP can be very profitable.

I'll be at Parx tonight.
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02-07-2014 , 02:46 PM
Alright thanks for quick reply. I'll be there tonight also wearing a navy NY mets hat, if you see me be sure to say hi, i'll buy you a beer.
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02-07-2014 , 02:48 PM
Looking back on the play from last night I also agree that limping in MP can be profitable, I'm just not use to it as much because I've been playing mostly online and am only recently trying to transition into playing more live poker.
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02-07-2014 , 02:53 PM
Raise a Big range OTB and in the CO. Figure out which players are loose and which are tight. We know the entire table was passive. Find out who is sticky and how often they continue to check call after the flop. How many are fit or fold on the flop and who continues with weak fits on the flop. Do the same on the turn and check the river behind with TP type hands until you can further categorize the players as stations, weak tight never raise, fit or fold flop, folds to turn pressure, etc... Also find the sweet spot between calling and folding pre.

I wouldn't worry too much about raises OOP with a table full of pasive players. Just don't 3 streett value own yourself when a cbet and barrell are called. They are passive they won't bluff missed draws if you check the river. Raise to steal blinds and plan on winning many small pots. When the pots get big on a passive table be near the top of your range when you bet the River. Whenever a passive player raises, fold with out effective nuts.
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02-07-2014 , 06:08 PM
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02-07-2014 , 08:27 PM
Don't limp.

Why? Well, we all know that we make our most money when we play opposite of what the table is playing.

Play very aggressive, raise every hand you enter, as another poster pointed out, know your opponents to inform your postflop play.
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02-07-2014 , 08:37 PM
Seems like limping and raising small ($7) is essentially the same thing. If someone is going to limp they are going to call $7.
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02-07-2014 , 08:38 PM
I think the best way to play at these types of tables isn't to raise more often pre I think it's best to see flops and bet your strong hands hard. People tend to play straightforward in limped pots.
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02-07-2014 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen
I think the best way to play at these types of tables isn't to raise more often pre I think it's best to see flops and bet your strong hands hard. People tend to play straightforward in limped pots.
Passive doesn't necessarily mean stupid. Unless there are some stations in this game (OP does not talk about postflop tendencies at all, hence the reason I left it open ended with my postflop comment), you will not necessarily get paid on your limped hands. Playing fit-or-fold at any level is just trading coolers, neutral EV.

As far as playing straightforward, I have actually found that people play more straightforward in raised pots (at least against me), therefore, I'm just gonna hafta disagree with you here.

And, as far as pot sweeteners go, I never suggested that. I am opening as much as the table can stand for 1 or 2 callers (12, 15, 18, 25, 35, whatever it takes), with my entire range.
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02-08-2014 , 04:10 AM
Parx limp tables are phenomenal really. You limp with speculative hands like AXs and low pp's, bet your bigger hands, and then when you connect on the flop, value them out.

Basically, they aren't going to go away pre-flop for small bets, so, don't make them. If you want to play a hand big, bet 12-15 pre, and fire at least a half pot on the flop. This betting line can easily take down a $60 pot when people miss and is highly profitable. The catch is that people do get sticky, so, unless you have a strong hand, you are going to get in trouble by firing.
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02-08-2014 , 05:48 PM
How'd you do last night? Last night I tried to intentionally keep my limps to a minimum. Maybe I was just at a very passive table but 80% of the hands I entered outside of the blinds I was raising to $10 + $2 per limper to great effect. Usually isolated 2 or 3 way max on the flop and when in position becomes pretty easy to play, even if you are transparent.

Should have walked away when I was up $225 but got into a tricky flopped baby flush hand and lost about $130 on it. I'll probably be back again tonight.

To Starpoker's point, my bread and butter was raising to $12 preflop getting 2 callers and either betting $20 on the flop or if I checked the flop any over card on the turn. That alone should allow you to book a small profit if you don't connect on any of your draws all night, don't get paid off on made hands, etc. I need to be more cognizant of table dynamic and not being afraid to change tables when I no longer like the dynamic.
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02-09-2014 , 01:12 AM
Hey man, last night I basically broken even walking away up 50 dollars. I was actually limping a lot of hands I would've normally raised.. suited connecters, any two broadway cards, some low pocket pairs etc.. I was also raising $10-12 dollars on some hands just to remain a little bit tricky.

Just got back a 5 hr session though and I bought in for 200 and left with 700 and some change playing the same way. I was calling most raises with playable hands against people I thought were not very good in position etc. Also ran really well so yea lol
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02-09-2014 , 02:05 AM
Parx is like printing money. I've seen guys call with ridonkuless hands like 23sooted and 94o to raises of 17 pre.

When I'm IP pre, I'm always raising big because some jackass is always calling way too loose and then giving up on the flop.
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02-10-2014 , 12:08 PM
Parx 1/2 is unbeatable, come play 2/5
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