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05-20-2019 , 01:04 PM
Hero. MAWG $300 reg at this casino. Just arrived at table.

Villain. 30 year old WG. Drinking alcohol. Never seen him before. $400 stack.

OTTH. 1/3 NL $300 max buyin.

Villain is in MP and opens to $7
Folded to Hero in BB with A7

Hero?
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05-20-2019 , 01:06 PM
Call and play it straight forward....
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05-20-2019 , 01:15 PM
I flat and see a flop.
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05-20-2019 , 01:32 PM
Call. Move on to flop imo.
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05-20-2019 , 02:03 PM
Most agree on a call. Without reads, I agree. I typically raise/fold this spot but no need to bloat the pot pre when we are willing to value bet light and bang the bet/fold button at these stakes.

OTTF
Flop Th6h2d.

Hero?
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05-20-2019 , 02:06 PM
Please put pot sizes on each street.

Flop I can go many ways. Donk, check/call, check/raise all seem fine. Would be nice to have some read on V, though. Anything stand out -- does he seem gambly, tight, etc?

It also depends on how gambly you are.
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05-20-2019 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Please put pot sizes on each street.

Flop I can go many ways. Donk, check/call, check/raise all seem fine. Would be nice to have some read on V, though. Anything stand out -- does he seem gambly, tight, etc?

It also depends on how gambly you are.
Way over bankrolled for this game because I mainly play 5/5 PLO and was just waiting on a seat.... so I push the variance. However, I work hard to never spew.

As for Villain, he is drinking alcohol. No hoodie or sunglasses. I would guess a recreational player more info is given.
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05-20-2019 , 03:09 PM
Check flop, see what he does and what his bet-sizing is if he bets.
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05-20-2019 , 03:25 PM
I play PLO, too, so I tend to get a bit aggressive/gambly vs. recs at 1/3.

Honestly, I can play this so many ways, and I'm not sure if there is a perfect way to play it, but against an unknown, maybe it's best to just check/evaluate. So sad when we hit our flush and don't get paid, though.
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05-20-2019 , 03:26 PM
3 bet pre to $30 as an exploit to his obvious sizing tell. You can comfortably fold to a 4 bet.

AP check raise flop barrel good turns.


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05-20-2019 , 03:27 PM
I really want to donk into him and see what he does, but that might just be spew
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05-20-2019 , 05:22 PM
A drinking man will generally c-bet another male who flats pre HU at 1/2,1/3. So check to him.

A donk would work better for Java as a woman, but I think x is good in H situation here.
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05-20-2019 , 07:11 PM
x/c flop, this is not a donking opportunity.

Can donk some turns though.
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05-20-2019 , 07:43 PM
X flop
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05-20-2019 , 08:12 PM
Ckc make a hand
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05-20-2019 , 08:53 PM
Why are there so many people here advocating for a flat pre? Is it because there's no dead money in the pot? Or is it because A4-5 > A7?

Really interested to see what the 2+2 regs have to say about this.
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05-20-2019 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by basederic
Why are there so many people here advocating for a flat pre? Is it because there's no dead money in the pot? Or is it because A4-5 > A7?

Really interested to see what the 2+2 regs have to say about this.
If you study Poker Snowie/Monker ranges it is a standard defend. Are you advocating 3betting?

3betting a hand like should only be done as an exploit if population over folds to 3bets. A7s doesn't flop well enough to make it more profitable as a default.

Also we are against MP so we should be 3betting less because MP has a stronger opening range than late position. If CO/BTN opened then 3betting is a more viable option. Although a mix is likely the best option.
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05-20-2019 , 11:47 PM
Hero checks and the Villain bets $15. Hero calls.

Board Th 6h 2d

Turn 9c (Pot $45)

Hero?
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05-20-2019 , 11:59 PM
x again
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05-21-2019 , 07:07 AM
The plot thickens. You’ve picked up some equity, assuming V doesn’t have Q/Jack Daniels.

I’d consider a x raise here.
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05-21-2019 , 07:21 AM
Pre, standard.

Flop, I can get behind a raise but calling is OK.

Turn: I can get behind a check raise here if you think you can find some FE.
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05-21-2019 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
If you study Poker Snowie/Monker ranges it is a standard defend. Are you advocating 3betting?

3betting a hand like should only be done as an exploit if population over folds to 3bets. A7s doesn't flop well enough to make it more profitable as a default.

Also we are against MP so we should be 3betting less because MP has a stronger opening range than late position. If CO/BTN opened then 3betting is a more viable option. Although a mix is likely the best option.
What’s Poker Snowie/Monker? Those exist? Never heard of them











+1 to this. Also your bluffing frequency for your 3b becomes way too disproportionate to your value, which isnt inherently bad in of itself but generally it would be since people don’t rly raise enough and also dont fold enough vs 3b. Also A7s plays nice as a flat, not exactly weak enough we want to use it as a bluff and not strong enough (A10s or AJs+) where we want to be 3-betting for value based on opener’s range/position. Also being IP, MP is less likely to fold and even if his sizing is weak, it doesnt necessarily mean that he folds more vs 3-bets than if he had made it $12

I think flop is close but vs psb i just call. Vs a std bet prefer raising, it’s our weakest Axhh here

Last edited by Minatorr; 05-21-2019 at 07:27 AM.
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05-21-2019 , 09:18 AM
Check turn. I can get behind a check/raise depending on size and live tells, but I probably end up check/calling.
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05-21-2019 , 03:28 PM
For this price I can't hate on a preflop call too much. But we're still going to end up HU OOP readless and it's very unlikely that's really going to be hugely profitable. But as long as we don't completely **** the bed postflop (and even just limit our mistakes to overfolding mediocre hands early) it likely can't be too costly even if it is a small mistake. I think calling is taking a line inbetween nit folding versus building a pot OOP against an unknown deepish, and I think that's a reasonable option. But I'm passive like that, especially when I think a 3bet will have very little immediate FE and we often just end up cbetting into the abyss OOP against an unknown.

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05-21-2019 , 03:31 PM
On the flop, I'd probably donk. It's not a huge pot relative to big stacks behind, so I'm less willing to risk a check/raise failing (by getting called or reraised) and then building a monster pot that I might not be able to continue with facing a huge bet/raise. We likely have FE against a huge range of hands that are currently better than ours (ex. all better Ax will likely fold a lot), so I'd just donk about a 1/2 PSB which gives me some FE and otherwise offers myself good odds if he continues.

ETA: Really surprised so few want to donk this flop. We should have FE against a lotta hands we want to fold and we have hand equity that can stand up to almost anything. All checking does is often lose our FE.

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