Hero pretty quickly calls $50. (Pot $190). River: 7d. Qc-7c-4s-9s-7d runout. Hero checks, V almost instantly bets $125 (one black one green).

I think if you called the turn you have to be ready to snap this off.

Good card for you. Nasty value-ey bet from villain.

If he's the type to go with a bluff you should call it off now. You have a good bluff-catcher and all his draws bricked.

I hate this spot. If we bet and get called by 2 players we have to x/f ott. If we get called by 1 player we have to check ott and have no idea where we stand and open ourselves up to get bluffed. X/calling then seems bad unless we have a good read.
X/calling otf seems also bad.
X/folding otf is the best option imo. Everything else is burning money in the longrun.

i would fold turn

ap i call river, best card for you in the deck besides a J

I agree. Which gets back to my point that it is going to cost you a bunch of cash to hope you have a winner. Just let him show and then you muck if you're behind. You can always claim you had a weaker TP and let him think you're a standard ABC player.

The positions of the other two v’s matter. I like betting flop more if we are just OOP to CO and the other two villains are in the blinds. If we are OOP to all villains and I’m new to table I check. If I’ve been playing with them for a while I might cbet small.

I’m mostly doing this at 2/5 but to avoid the problem Venice goes into we can check some some weaker Qx like QJs and then some AcQx and AcAx in these spots.

One V in EP and one in MP both before tricky V. Why check Ac hands as opposed to non-c? I get we have bdf potential but why does that mean check?

I'm actually not thrilled with the 7 because it could easily be what he was betting on the turn. However, based on the previous hand and your checking/calling the turn then checking river, I think it's a call.

I actually play this way against a few of my regular opponents because it's the only way I make money from them. The minute I bet, they fold (or raise huge with a draw, etc., who knows? and I usually have to fold), but they'll keep betting if I check. I just call them down as if I'm weak or chasing when I actually have top pair or better, and almost always I end up with the best hand.

if you call turn pot = 190$ and V has $265 left
so unless you are prepared to call a shove on the river fold turn

pre way to small

as played his bets look like value but you hung around for a reason I assume?

hopefully not chasing a 2 outer

so if you thought you were good on the turn
river easy call

If we want to have a checking range with hands we can continue with against a bet, then blocking the nut flush draw is good since we don’t have to worry as much about giving our opponent a free card since they are less likely to have a flush draw and we will have equity if they hit their flush. We also have fewer hands that we can target for value when we block the nut flush draw.

Don’t get too fancy though and just start checking because you have one of those types of hands, that’s why I started the last paragraph with “if”. Against standard passive players we should just be betting but against tricky players and competent regs it’s a good spot to mix in some checks.

OK results....

Tank called, V said good call and mucked.

This bet is criminal imo, it has basically nothing going for it.

- Against typical flatting ranges, you're an underdog to have the best hand right now. Play around in Equilab. I have it roughly 42% to have the best hand right now and 32% equity, using the opponent range { JJ-33,AQs-A3s,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,AQo-A7o,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o }

- Opponent calling ranges will be easily ahead of you because they have a lot of Qs, against which you have two outs. All the hands in the portion of their calling range which is losing to you have at least 5 outs (I guess with the possible exception of like 88-TT).

- If raised you will have to fold. This is partly a problem when up against flush draws which raise, but it's also actually a consideration against sets. Although you are only like 1 in 20 to overset them on any given street, you probably stack them if you hit. Obviously this only matters if you're able to call the flop, which you often can't.

- You're not really protecting anything. As mentioned, if you let the rest of the board run out your winning chances only decrease by 10%. That's over two streets, it costs $4 to just let the runout happen. This board is actually pretty dry. Other than clubs (which you can't get rid of by betting anyway) it's hard for people to have many outs against you.

- We have a positional disadvantage and want to keep the pot small where possible.

- If you bet all these types of hands, your check range will be terminally weak. I'm not sure what would be in your x/c range if this isn't.

I win decent pots by routinely x/c hands like this. As mentioned above, you want some decent bluffcatch hands. What hands did you raise here that you x/c and how many of them beat 88?

I don't like where this is going, more pre, as played check flop...this whole hand feels like a vulcan mind meld where you soul read villain OTR

check raising the 50 bet is interesting but definitely not folding

carry on

edit: damn, you couldn't even wait a day or two to spoil it, river is an easy call tho wtf, the board paired, we improved!?