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I meant no draws hitting except the 98...I'd also concerned by getting repopped by J/10 or a set. If Vs here are seen as capable of limping qq/jj then you have assume they could have limped 10s 7s or 2s as well.

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I think at the 1/2 stakes, almost everyone is calling their value hands on the river unless its the nuts. Most Villains will happily call with JT instead of raising. I think the bet/fold is a really good plan. Considering how passive the table is and how this Villain has been, alarm bells would be ringing if he raises the river here.

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02-22-2018 , 11:48 AM

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shorn7

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Originally Posted by QuantumSurfer

I'm going for $55 b/f. Not to split hairs, but if V will call $40, he'll call a bit more. Not really worried about getting c/r bluffed on the river by a passive 1/2 unknown.

I am here but I think I would size more like $40/fold. Depending on V too, might be merit to check and let V bluff missed draws....thoughts?

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02-22-2018 , 01:42 PM

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QuantumSurfer

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Originally Posted by shorn7

I am here but I think I would size more like $40/fold. Depending on V too, might be merit to check and let V bluff missed draws....thoughts?

I don't think bluffing is part of a passive 1/2 player's repertoire.

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02-22-2018 , 01:54 PM

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Amanaplan

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Ckc riv

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02-22-2018 , 02:51 PM

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atenesq

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Originally Posted by paratrooper99

A pot sized bet on each street HU will get the money in if we bet $7

This is appalling.

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02-22-2018 , 08:25 PM

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This is appalling.

Just math bro. Sorry.

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02-22-2018 , 08:43 PM

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atenesq

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Originally Posted by paratrooper99

Just math bro. Sorry.

The math gets it in. The line doesn't. Not against anything you beat anyway. Hard to charge draws once they've already bricked out. Worse 2P unlikely. TP probably not calling pot turn/pot river either.

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02-22-2018 , 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by atenesq

Seems like you are making a lot of assumptions that aren't based on fact.

1. We have 2 more streets to play.
2. We are charging draws on the flop $7 which is 70% of the pot size.
3. In a limped pot, 75,52,T5 and T2 are certainly in SB and CO range.
4. AT or KT will likely call a turn pot sized bet and on good rivers, also could easily call.

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02-22-2018 , 09:08 PM

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atenesq

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Seems like you are making a lot of assumptions that aren't based on fact.

There are lots of ways to get stacks in by the river. Betting as little as possible on the flop gets you the least action from worse on this board. I'm not sure what assumptions you think this entails.

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02-22-2018 , 09:15 PM

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I'm not sure what assumptions you think this entails.

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Not against anything you beat anyway. Hard to charge draws once they've already bricked out. Worse 2P unlikely. TP probably not calling pot turn/pot river either.

Just wondering... What size is not appalling to you?

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02-23-2018 , 02:27 PM

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donkatruck

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I'd bet $15 on the flop, 1.25 pot on turn, shove river. Don't f around with good but not unbeatable hands multiway. If they are calling pot they are calling pot+.