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Originally Posted by THEOSU
in general it's a bet/fold, but i think given the weakness of your bet and the manner in which he raised, it's a call, but it's close.
it's gonna be hard for villain to have the 7h if we have it also.
oh I missed that..yeah I can see how this is a PAHWM now...lol
This is a tl/dr, but this is how I would break it down:
1) Villain's ch/raise on the river is either a nutted hand or it isn't
2) if it isn't a nutted hand, then it's either be a pure air ball bluff or a hand with good to weakish value that he is turning into a bluff.
3) For him to have a complete air ball, his range would be composed of missed draws. hands like non heart 5-8 or 6-8 are the only obvious missed draws..But then, you have to consider the weight of these hands in villain's range?Considering villain's profile as a strong player, as well as his action of donking the flop and check/calling turn, the only 5-8 or 6-8 type hands I see him continuing with are the suited
ones. Conclusion: very low chance of a complete bluff
4) So let's consider villain merging/vbluffing his range here because he may have perceived weakness from hero, given hero's anemic bet sizing on the river...the hands in this range are exclusively composed of sets, twopairs overpairs and straights.. All of these hands are raising flop or turn or leading turn..Again it isn't consistent with villain's actions....furthermore, these hands would bet/f river for value or be turned into a bluff by leading river
5) it's $160 to win $450. We want to call because we think to be good here >25% of the time
So, the only plausible explanation for hero to call here is villain may have chosen to check/eval river based on hero's bet sizing...But usually when we analyze HH, we say check/call a small bet or ch/fold to a bigger bet. So, villain can easily have chosen to call with his value range, which lessens the chances of him turning his hand into a bluff. Villain can also consider hero's action as an inducing bet and would choose not to fall into the trap by bluff raising.
Given my long explanation, my conclusion is that we are not good >25% of the time to call here
cliffs: fold