Sorry, I guess I mean "get out the riffraff" as in bet enough on the flop that if they want to call, they are going to pay a good price, but the likely continuing range is more Ax and Kx weighted.

Ok - so it looks like after being in agreement preflop and on the flop my sizing on the turn is a bit smaller than the rest of the board here. I wanted to keep the weakest of his Ax range in with a meekish looking bet so as not to spook AQ/KJ/AT/KQ.

Pot: $220

Turn: A K 4 J

Hero bets $100
SB looks noticeably upset/perturbed/unsure/etc. He eventually tank/calls $100

I saw the wheel spinning and I think he is firmly on AQ here. I'm looking for one more street of value at a price he just can't fold to.

Pot: $420

River: A K 4 J 2

Hero?

I'd bet $175 to target AT/AQ/KJ.

"Same bet"? I usually hate that, but if he really is on AQ, you shouldn't be getting much more. He might take it as a sight of weakness, though, and raise, which would be scary. Maybe make it $170 - $190.

How to get value from AQ (8total/2suited), KQ(12total/3suited), KJ(6total/1suited)?

Either b/f 1/2 pot or chk turn and call or bet when checked to on most rivers.

It really comes down to whether he will call a turn bet with KQ / AQ and whether he'd look us up with KQ / AQ OTR if we check turn.

If he's fold to a turn bet but call a river bet unimproved, a check for pot control vs better and to get value from worse OTR might be ok here and I'd do that some of the time against predictable players. So since the posters before me said bet turn, I'll go ahead and say check turn. Call a reasonable bet or bet most rivers except a T, Q or K.

Ap On river b/f 275.

Hmmm. I actually think his range is weighted heavily toward KJ....kind of like he knew his absolute hand strength improved but his relative hand strength didn't really. AQ might call a smaller bet. I can't see KQ/AT paying us off so I'm not worried about targeting those hands as much.

$200 sounds right.

@Cam, do you prefer b/c/b so as to not get blown off our hand and ensure we make it to showdown? Two pair is feeling pretty good to me here and I wouldn't expect to get bluff raised by the described V which led me to take a b/f line OTT. Once he showed (perhaps unintentionally) genuine discomfort, I decided right there I was gonna go for value on non-Q or T rivers.

@Swoly, agreed on KJ. May even be slightly more likely than AQ, though I don't know if he would deliberate the turn so much unless he had a case of the MUBS and put me squarely on AK (which he very well may have). Maybe KJs with a pair + BDFD on the flop, two pair on the turn and just wants to see showdown on the river.

Anyway -

Pot: $420

River: A K 4 J 2

SB checks
Hero bets $150
SB tank/calls $150



Bets went:
Flop: 60% PSB
Turn: 45% PSB
River: 36% PSB

Too small? Just right?

No and it's not really a preference. I just wanted to get it out there since I'd consider it some if the time.

Against guys who I think I won't get 3 streets of solid value I'll sometimes give the free card and bet river for value rather substantial and get looked up fairly light. I don't do as much of this as I did at one time. if overdone it loses value. Against this villain I'm not concerned about getting raised off our hand. If he raises I think we are beat. It was more a matter of how elastic his inferior calling range might be.

Otoh if he's a chaser we want to be getting called ott by his pair+GS hands. So my decision would be player dependent.

Nh

Yes. Somehow all the aces worse than AT dropped out of people's idea of the villain's range, and I'm not sure why. I think those hands will usually fold on the turn but might pay off a river bet. Against the stronger hands in his range, betting the turn is good because we can get three streets from KJ (and maybe, maybe AQ), but I feel like we lose a lot of customers by betting the turn.

^ Bob, wouldn't you expect a tightish 55+ guy calling out of the SB to have more AT+ than AT- in his cold call range though? Maybe you get each of the Axs<T in there but I think a lot of those hands just get folded pre.

If the turn is a brick, I likely check it back and call a bet on the river hoping he's got <AT or Kx being content with two streets of value.

But I feel like when you hit a strong two pair you gotta go for value and hope he's not at the bottom of his one pair range. If he folds to the turn bet, well I may or may not have gotten one more bet out of him on the river, but when he calls, you are setting yourself up for a pretty nice pot.

Turn and riv should be bigger and prob bet/fold.

Turn should def be bigger. And riv I don't hate half pot

Just curious do we think he called pre with
KJo? There's 1 combo of KJs.

Btw nh op. I think you are right that AQ is his most likely holding.

if he tank/called it was just right for him. If he raised I go bye bye especially since he showed he didn't like it when the str8 completed. A lot of people love to hollywood and show fake tells.

btw everyone shoud be taking lessons from you for the way you post your hands. +1 for that.

nh

i like 275 if we don't have a hand.

we have a hand. so i wouldn't go over 200 and probably stick with something callable like 150.

This post gets my vote, also might get calls for KT-KQ due to backdoor possibility.

A MAWG? Sure. KJ looks pretty, being two face cards and all, even if their suits don't match. I don't think many MAWG fold Broadway hands to a single raise PF, like ever.

Is it the sole part of his range? No. I agree AQ is a big part too. I weighted toward KJ based on his reaction on the turn.