Juicy $1/2 became a $2/5 table. A bunch of $1000plus stacks. A lot of loose players. A bunch of loose regs who aren´t terrible post flop. No serious players among them. Doubtful anyone is going to get out of line. Despite being loose pre, with the exception of 2 players, table seems a little fit n' foldish post flop, if that makes any sense at all.

V1 is a middle aged Asian guy wearing scrubs. Extemely nitty player. When we were playing $1/2 saw him limp KQ on button behind limpers, donkey raised to $12 in BB, a few callers and V snap folded. Also folded A9s in similar spot. Have played with him before. Super nitty post flop. Slowplays big hands like crazy (typically calling all the way to the river) Needs virtually the nuts to raise. In previous session saw him flop a set of 5´s on 59T2J and he just called down small/medium sized bets. Didn´t raise the river because he was afraid of the straight.

V2 is a young hipster, plays loose, not terrible, ABC I guess.

Hero has a snug image. Besides V1 he is the tightest player at table. Open raising and 3 betting quite a bit though.

Hero ($1000) opens AJ UTG for $20, V1 calls (Covers), 2 loose regs call ($500ish), Station calls OTB ($1800). V2 ($600ish) calls BB. 6 ways

($115) Flop: K42

Checked to hero who?

$65

Bets

Bet 60-65 and expect to be called by 55+ and all kings that called pre

I like a bet here - 1/2 to 2/3 pot. Depending on which V/s call, likely double barreling most turn cards

Bet for sure, and $65 does seem a good amount as others noted.

I think at a tighter table you need to build this pot by volume (callers) not quality (go after one stack) ... $65-80 will put $500 stacks to test on the Turn and probably will get called by Kx hands.

You can pick up backdoor straight draws on Turn as well. This is a 100% c-bet spot even though you 'have nothing'. You are still 25% against a set and 33% against Kx. So it's pretty easy to bet 1/2 pot here and be =EV.

Passive players want you to give them a reason to fold .. do it. They definitely aren't going to pay you off if you hit your flush so make them pay now. GL

i would cbet 75 hoping to narrow it down. If I get raised I would have to consider their stack, our FE & E, along with their range.

kookie monster raise bigger UTG at least 25. If it is full of stations I would raise to 30. 20 is fine if it was folded to us in late middle, or the HJ/CO. In this game 20 utg is almost a sweetener

$100-125/shove

Your equities are wrong.

I like a check/call. Yeah, we have decent equity but we're OOP vs a field of mostly loose players and we're likely going to have to empty the clip to see a profit. Not only that, most players size their bets horribly so we'll be able to draw relatively cheaply.

Bet 80.

Pre is fine if you have seen the table get sticky since the game moved To 2-5 I would go to 30 pre- on the flop I go to 70 here...deeper or in a tougher game I may check but as described I think betting is best

We should be trying to get as much $$$ in the pot OTF as possible.

There are literally just 6 hands in existence that we don't want to see, [44,22]. There are zero KK hands out there (as played).

~~~~~
Board: Ks 4d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.596% 44.60% 00.00% 5298 0.00 { AdJd }
Hand 1: 55.404% 55.40% 00.00% 6582 0.00 { KQs, KQo }
~~~~~
Board: Ks 4d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.180% 40.18% 00.00% 14320 0.00 { AdJd }
Hand 1: 59.820% 59.82% 00.00% 21320 0.00 { 44, 22, K2s+ }
~~~~~
Board: Ks 4d 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.465% 26.46% 00.00% 1572 0.00 { AdJd }
Hand 1: 73.535% 73.54% 00.00% 4368 0.00 { 44, 22 }
~~~~~

One is ... 33% against K2, not Kx (46%) ... Poker Odds ap

26% against bottom set .. GL

Agreed generally.

But these are $1/$2 players who are thinking in absolute terms. $20 was a decent raise to them at $1/2 with a $5 straddle (many players were raising $15 in this spot). With AJs UTG I´m happy to get a nice multiway pot brewing.

Despite being 6ways I actually felt I could win this pot OTF sometimes if nobody has a King or Flush draw. If I only get 1 or 2 callers (depending on the players) I can consider double barrelling OTT.

So...

Hero bets $75; V1 looks excited, sighs unnaturally and calls quickly; folds around to V2 who calls after like 5 seconds of deliberation.

($340) Turn T

V2 checks, hero?

C/C if V1 gives you a good price on the turn. Folding to any shove.

If the pot were heads up I may consider double barreling, but with 2 opponents on this wet board I don't think you have enough fold equity. Also, trust your read on V1. If he seems excited then he likes his hand a lot and he's not folding to your turn barrel.

Tough spot
I am tempted to double barrel here for like 200 but given v1 am more likely to check/call
What are the chances v1 pays off a big bet if the flush comes?

The way you describe V1, he has exactly a set here so I don't see the point in barrelling the turn. Just x/c if he gives you odds and discount implied odds to some extent because you explained that he is unlikely to pay you off without the most coolering of coolers.

V1's flop call is super strong given how many players are to act. Minimum he's got KQ and he could be on a set or KQdd. Since we have the NFD, the amount of draws V2 could have go way down. Call it a weakish K.

I check back even though we have picked up equity.

yeah i hear ya man but it's still a "2/5" table. If we had ace ace we wouldn't mind a few callers but we don't want too many with AJs from utg (just over dog crap relatively speaking when you factor in your position and the hand itself)

c/c

Another great hand kookie.

From the beginning I was trying to think of a way to make money off V1, and I still haven't thought of a way.

I'd be inclined to b/f against V2 but it accomplishes zero against V1, who will smooth call the turn with anything worth calling OTF. By the same token, doubt either one of them is aggressive enough to bet very strongly OTT (if at all) so I favor a check.

Plus, I would hate to bet and fold out my money man and be left up against the nit.

Beyond that, you're in the middle. Hate being in the middle. See what those other two jokers are gonna do before you put any more money in.

Don't know that I would be all that enthusiastic about calling a big turn bet. Not sure either one of these guys pays me off if I hit, but V2 might.

Prediction: board pairs OTR.

Can't see any other option but c/c. Lead all diamond rivers, c/r Q's and c/f bricks.