2/5 NLE 500$ cap Saturday night
Hero: $500, 30s white guy, new-ish table, taggy image
Asian V: covers, 30s male. has been nonstop talking to people on his side of the table (opposite side of me) so he probably has no reads. Seems to have really bad sizing preflop: I saw him raise to $15 pre after 2 or 3 limpers from cutoff and he had JJ at showdown. Saw him do the same thing with A2 sooted after a few limpers. Oddly enough, he seems to be pretty solid OTF and post. Overall might be break even or small winner
V2: $400ish, MAWG, bad passive tight fish who thinks he is a grinder, way too tight pre, folds too much post

Folds around to Asian V in hi-jack and he makes it $15, V2 calls OTB, folds to hero in BB and we look down at A9

Hero?

What sort of range are you putting V on? And how sticky will he be to a raise?

You have a mediocre suited ace OOP, unless you catch some particularly favorable flop it plays bad post flop. Default to fold most of the time. Hand is good enough for bluffing that you could 3 bet occasionally but how often depends on situation. The original bet is just small enough you could also flat and fish for a good flop but this isn't really a good hand for it, this is more to mix up Hero's range a bit.

Fold > Raise to $50 > Call

Folding pre most of the time for reasons quadJ stated. I like larger sizing if we 3b bluff. ~70. Also think A5s might be better to bluff since we can make a wheel.

I agree with the above 2 posters. If I 3b pre I'd make it 4.5x so $65-$70.

Are you guys really folding suited Ax for 2 more BBs in the BB? Would Doug Polk fold here?

If not 3b bluff, we can atleast call here.

Folding is silly af

Against a min raise pre I would call first, 3b 2nd, and fold 3rd. Against a proper PF raise I would fold first, 3b 2nd, and call 3rd.

It's a small raise, but that OMC range had us crushed in BTN. If we were HU there could be a case made for pushing him post, but multi-way with him in the pot, there's just a few flops that are good for for us. Based on description, we're likely not winning the $ needed post from a nit & a guy who's ok post flop.

3betting or calling both fine, probably flatting

Anyone thinking of folding this is lolbad

My thoughts exactly...another 2 BB

Hero calls and flop comes 6♠️7x8♠️ ($45)

Hero?

Over bet & commit. C/r works too. As long as we build the pot up big OTF we'll be fine.

This. Lead for 35 as played

Playing solid A-game I 3! to $70. Playing B-game I flat like a pussy cuz "relative position."

Calling would be my std here, whether or not I 3! Would depend on some things. I do not like folding pre here. As played i would look to c/r otf.

i was pretty sure most people on 2p2 would say fold pre, and its prob correct. but im calling almost always here as long as we are at least 100bb effective vs a 3x late position open and seeing a flop multiway. i rationalize it to myself that boredom factor makes it +EV overall.

i also look to x/r flop. im a little undecided on how to play turns, but i lean toward checking again on a lot of turns that we dont bink on.

I think 3 betting pre is better but the folding makes my head hurt.

OTF, I think leading 35+ is probably best. I don't think I'd be going for a c/r with sets or straights on this board so I don't like the c/r as much on this board plus if your c/r does get 3 bet that sucks a lot more than if your lead gets raised.

You wouldn't c/r sets or straights on this board?!

No, I think I'd lead. I don't think I'd have a c/r range here generally. On a 8 high connected board with a flush draw I'd expect it to check through quite a bit. If you know that the pfr c-bets way too much or V2 stabs a lot, I might consider c/r but I think leading your big hands is better here.

This for me too. On such a draw heavy board I'd lead large with my value hands, so I'd size up with this hand. I'd bet close to pot here, and would happily GII if raised.

For those advocating a lead: what typically happens when you lead with sets and straights in this configuration? I'm guessing you get called or raised.

I like a c/r to maximise fold equity and GII IF raised.

As long as you don't fold now it doesn't matter what you do. Lead or check/raise are both fine. Given villain descriptions I think lead $35 is likely slightly better. There is probably a decent chance this checks around if you check and that would be bad. Against more aggressive villains I would prefer a check/raise.

flat > 3b >>>>>>>>> fold pre

checking the flop

Can't risk it checking through

why?

3b or fold pre, I lean towards a fold. We have a tight player in position and from the information given, V1 raises to 3x regardless of number of callers, position, or holding. V1 has a wide range and is also in position against us.

For the sake of the forum, let's 3b pre. We'll hope to take it down or get heads up to the flop. On the flop we'll look to cbet favorable boards.