live full ring 2/4 400 max bi

Hero (CO): Tag and thinking player image. Won most pots w/o showdown. ~ 500
Villain (MP): Young Asian. LAG. playing roughly 25/20. Has been in 3bet/4bet pots with A2s, K9s. Capable of being a thinking player. ~ 500

Pre ($6)
Folds to Villain who opens to $16 (his standard sizing). Hero wakes up with 33?

Think pre is an obvious call, if you can occasionally win unimproved on favorable boards,

Call, unless there is some dynamic with button or blinds where they will 3b a high percentage after you flat. Then fold.

Yeah probably didn't need to include as part of the hand.

Pre ($6)
Folds to Villain who opens to $16. Hero with 33 calls. BTN (loose passive) calls. BB (loose passive) calls. Effective stacks 400.

Flop ($66)
AQ3
BB checks. Villain checks. Hero???

Betting here 100% of the time. Board is dry and if it didn't hit one of our V's, we are unlikely to pick anything up later to allow playing for stacks.

I go a bit small and hope for a raise, or at least a float. $25-30.

Best flop ever. You have to bet large.

Lots of Ax in passive ranges, and they will call almost any flop sizing almost all the time. There's really no point in betting smaller. And checking is an actual mistake - you'd be missing value and giving free cards to hands like KJ, KT, JT, etc - hands with which the passive villains will also call larger flop bets than they should. A check also allows a free 2 outer for pocket pairs > 3. Slow playing with a check would serve almost no purpose. On a board like this, there are really no meaningful group of hands that will improve to second best hands that give you value after the flop.

$55-$60.

If the original villain has and folds something like TT, JJ, KK, that's totally fine. On a board like this, the strategic goal isn't to eek out a tiny bit of value against a very weak hand. It's to build a huge pot and get immediate and very large value from many hands that connect with this board and that will appear to villains to have quite a bit of absolute strength.

I'm in Garick's camp. Hopefully, by betting $25-$30, the loose Button, or one of the other loose players, will think you're trying to pick up the pot since you're in LP & call with a KJ, JT etc.

I get why the bet and if in the same position I will probably bet the flop too. But the problem is if we are viewed as a TAG what hand are we betting other than an Ace?

Also if the pfr is a LAG why wouldn't he lead out with an Ace on the board. My read on the button is that his calling range is wide but not necessarily the type of player to raise over the top of a small flop bet.

I think there is a case to check and hope the button bets and see how the action unfolds and then raise it up.

If the button checks back let's hope the villain bets on any other card that isn't a diamond or a Broadway card.

@jaicee5: If LAG doesn't have an ace, what are we hoping he hits ott? A 2nd pair or trips, while at the same time giving infinite odds for the gutshot draws & pocket pairs. Or, he picks up a flush draw to go with his gutshot & pair, i.e. KQs.

I just feel like that a LAG will bet all draws he has and pairs on the flop to rep an Ace, unless he is slow playing a set himself.

I think if the villain is actually a TAG then this isn't the best board for him to cbet unless he has an Ace, since it is multi and very draw heavy.

OTTH If it is checked through I can imagine the villain if he is a LAG betting the turn (since no one has repped an ace) as long as a diamond or Broadway card doesn't hit.

Again if I was the hero I would bet the flop because we can get called by worse, but given the right table dynamics I might check the flop hoping button does try and steal, and the other players call with an ace or flush/straight draw.

Lead 35

Slow playing here is AIDS, imo. We've already had one of the LPs and the LAG check. If this checks through, the chance of playing for stacks goes way down. LPs won't bet their weak As or Qs, but they'll likely call a couple of times with them. If no one has anything, you might not make any money on this hand, but since bets increase geometrically, the amount you make on average goes way up if you start getting money in now.

The reason I recommended a bet on the small side is to get calls from the weaker part of the LPs' ranges and to perhaps tempt LAG to play back at us by looking like a steal attempt is a large part of our range.

OR isn't putting money in this pot unless he has us beat. He has KK and folds. He has JJ and folds. Or he has AA, flopped top set and checked. Any time OR checks the flop, I immediately put top set in his range. Maybe it's mubsy and maybe it's just the $1/$2 games I've been playing.

Obviously, we're betting here ... $35 seems like a solid number. OR might peel with KK 'one time.'

This is also one of the major problems with setmining ... If OR has JJ, we are making no more money off him here and setmining is not profitable. We can never assume we are getting another caller behind and all of our implied odds come from OR.

Since this is a PAHWM, I am guessing someone calls.

Or hero tarped himself

With all due respect, who cares? You have two loose passives OTB and BB who called a raise pre. Bet big OTF and get one or both to call. Don't worry about balancing your range. No one is paying attention here. Focus on getting value.

+1

Though I would increase the betting range to $30-$40.

I gotta go with Willy here, bet big. Although I agree with Kolb also, I'm suspicious when a PFR checks when he should bet betting his whole range on this flop. However, LLSNL Vs can check underpairs a whole lot. When PFR checks, I'm not interested in keeping him in the hand anymore, if he missed that is.

If him and me are set ovah set, I'm going broke and writing a note about his check OTF.

I like a bet of 45-50. You are being called by every A and this just not a board to spazz out on. I disagree that a bet of 25-30 could lead to a raise/attack by opponents, unless you have information that V ike to attack bets like that.
You describe yourself as TAG, this is a dry Ahigh board and not likely to be attacked if they are somewhat thinking players.

I thought that betting big super narrows my range to two pair+, additionally it wouldnt be very balanced since i havnt been betting huge this session.

Flop ($66)
AQ3
BB checks. Villain checks. Hero bets 35. BTN folds. BB folds. Villain calls relatively quickly.

Turn ($136)
4
Villain checks. Hero??? what is villains flop check calling range? QJ-AJ? QQ-AA?

Bet about 80 in order to set up a 160-200 river bet.

His range for check-calling the flop and checking the turn there imo is A2-A9o (wo A3), KTs, JTs, KQ, QJ, QT.

Strong Qs and basically all aces that were in his range in the first place, up to about AJ. Could even be a float, especially if you get c/r here.

I go about 3/4 pot. If you have your money in stacks of 100, I just slide one out, as pulling a couple chips off will likely raise suspicion that you're actually thinking "too much." $90 might be more optimal, as even at 100, an AI OTR will be above a PSB, and we might get more calls if we can keep it below the 3-fig barrier. Have to balance how $90 would be read though.

Snap calling a CRAI. If called, I GII on most rivers if bet in to and bet about 2/3 pot if not.

If you bet only $25, you are giving them the right implied odds to draw to their gutshot because it is highly unlikely you will be folding this hand. I think Willyoman is right and that making it $60 is a good play (as long as it is fairly consistent with Hero's betting ranges so far). If they all fold, oh well, they didn't have anything in the first place. If they do call, you can narrow their range to find maximum value on the turn and river.

C/c range on the flop I think is a lot of top pairs like AJ AK and two pairs to play pot control. He could maybe be slow playing a set but I think if he's been 3b and 4b light Pre flop he probably rasies flop. I fire out another 100 on this turn as it doesn't change anything.

I'm with Garick here, 100 and snap call CRAI.

LOL. Villain calls relatively quickly? And you people want to snap off a turn check/raise AI?

You think V is taking that line with AK? When was the last time you saw the preflop raiser check the flop and turn with AK when he flops TPTK? He isn't going to get fancy here with one pair. He is going to value bet, value bet, value bet.