Hero is an early 20's looking guy with a snug image. Bought in for $300 and sitting on $950 now. Haven't shown down many hands and haven't raised much. I have only 3! once so far this session (3! AK, flopped broadway, ch/ch flop, V check/folded turn). I also got caught bluffing once when I limp/called KQs UTG vs. a loose BTN raiser, V bet $30 into $45 on 883r flop, SB cals,l I call with BDFD + overs, turn J board checks thru, river 5, SB checks, I bet $150 and V tank calls with JTo. This bluff occurred before HH1 below.

Villain is a late 20's white guy sitting on a $1200 stack. We've been playing together for about 3 hours now but his stack hasn't moved much since I got there. Not sure how he won it but V has position on the loose BTN raiser from previous HH and they have had ongoing skirmishes back and forth in 3! pots with none going to showdown. I'm guessing he has a fairly tight raising range that loosens up as he gets closer to the BTN. We've mostly stayed out of each others way all night with only one hand of note.

Hand History 1 - Effective stacks: $600

OTTH,

Effective stacks: $950

New guy limps in EP ($300 stack, just settling in)
V raises to $15 OTB
SB folds
Hero looks down at KK in the BB and decides to ...

V's bet seems a little small relative some of his other raises, especially with a limper involved already. I think he bets premiums big around $20

Raise. $40 looks good, no reason to try and bet them out of the pot but no reason to go small either. Nobody has shown any strength but your OOP and facing more then one opponent.

well, i don´t see any reason for an exploitable play just yet, so would just go with my standard raise size for my whole range when 3betting oop, which is slightly more than potsize.
3bets to 55

3bet to 50 or calling is booth ok (to keep the limper in and pot control). 3 betting is tricky, if villain is somewhat good.

But this isn`t that super interesting. Did something cool happen OTF?

Grunch:

Why are we not shovelling money in on HH1???

I raise to $55.

Ugly spot, expect to get called by everything pre no matter what raise you make, given stacks.

Make it $55 as many said.

I had a sense V was pretty strong here. We are flipping vs. KK and a nearly 60/40 dog to AA. I was contemplating raising the flop, but I've had pretty good success check/raising the turn. Was more just a situational and opponent specific decision.

Effective stacks: $950

New guy limps in EP ($300 stack, just settling in)
V raises to $15 OTB
SB folds
Hero 3! KK to $50 in the BB
Limper folds
V calls $50 OTB

I guess 3! was still the standard play here. I kind of hate big pairs OOP when deep but fk it, gotta do whatcha gotta do.

Pot: $100

Flop: T 6 2

Hero?

We're way ahead of his range on this flop. Really only afraid of 1010 and 66.

But I see no reason from the villain description to get overly fancy in this spot.

Bet $75, evaluate if he raises, but leaning against a fold on this board texture.

My plan for most runouts is going to be bet/bet/check-to-induce. Ace, ten, or spade will give me pause, but that's about it.

$80. I'm guessing he raises you. Sucks I know.

Still a straightforward situation, make a basic value c-bet on flop. $60/$70 looks good on this board. No reason to go big because there is only one obvious draw to worry about.

Lol! Something told me that I would be reading about this hand... creepy stuff. Unless this is an amazing coincidence, I was the V in this hand. 1/3 at parx last night. I'm curious to read what everyone thinks.

BTW I'm an early 30s white guy. You didn't see the grey hair? I figured you to be more observant.

this thread just got so much better

Uh oh

V needling H ITT. Nice. Tell me this ends with H betting KK into trup queens.

Hah! My thinking was ''Premium pair...Moderately deep...Beautiful!...Let's build a big pot and make some money!''

+1

No need to go crazy and convince PP's and top pair to fold.

Kookie..

[x] premium pair
[ ] moderately deep
[ ] vs bad player
[ ] IP

Ofcourse we need to build a pot and 3b is obv. But I doubt we're winning much money post flop here against V. Hero's range is very QQ+/AK heavy and very face up against a thinking player.

**** my cover is blown. Eject, eject!

Effective stacks: $950

New guy limps in EP
V raises to $15 OTB
Hero 3! KK to $50 in the BB
Limper folds
V calls $50 OTB

Pot: $100

Whoops, just realized I forgot to include a continuing range for V. I'd range him on all pocket pairs, all suited broadways at this point. I don't know how wide his BTN raising range is so it's hard to say if he could show up with SC's and SG's.

Flop: T 6 2

Hero bets $80
V calls $80

Seems like a pretty good flop for me here. He didn't 4! me pre, so I am discounting AA for the most part and ideally hoping he's got something like QQ or JJ. I've had HH's before where people said "don't target the weak portion of V's range with your bet sizing" so I went on the heavy side here. I forget how long exactly it took V to call but I think it was rather quick.

Pot: $260

Turn: 5**

Hero?

Thoughts going through my head are now should I be value betting here or trying to ensure I make it to showdown by checking a street. A bet here is likely going to commit us to seeing a showdown but we open ourselves up to getting blown off the hand.

** I'm not exactly sure what the turn was to be honest. I just know it was a non-spade low card brick. M-Lo, if you remember feel free to chime in.

I always at least consider going for the c/r here against aggro opponents. Prob. just bet $175. Pricy enough for flush draws to make a clear mistake, not too much to chase away JJ, a ten. Maybe 99,88 makes a crying call.

At this point there are two basic lines you can take. You can check/evaluate, with an eye towards calling but possibly raising, or you can bet again. This is a basic situation where you need to mix up your play between options a bit. If you always bet your will be too easy to trap, if you never bet you will be too passive vs draws. Check/raising should be pretty rare because your committing too much with a single pair this deep but can still be used again more aggressive villains.

Absent any history or much information about villain's post flop play, I go with $160 as the default line. Check maybe 1 time in 5 or so.

Bet $110/fold against a good player. If called, c/eval river. I don't like the bigger sizing because there are barely any draws in his range and it will make him fold JJ.

Effective stacks: $950

Pot: $100

Flop: T 6 2

Hero bets $80
V calls $80

Pot: $260

Turn: 5

Hero bets $125
V min-raises to $250
Hero?

I thought we were still ahead which warrants a turn bet. I sized it small (1/2 PSB) to keep the weaker portion of V's range in while not over committing myself. Not loving the min raise but not seeing a lot of value combos V can have here. Feels more like a spazz. Calling here would create a pot of $760 with $570 behind.

From a pure combo standpoint, we are ahead of 12 and behind 9, excluding any other random spazz factor.

AA - 3 combos (discounted by half)
QQ - 6 combos
JJ - 6 combos
TT - 3 combos
66 - 3 combos

Fold. His minraise is begging for a call.

If he has respect for your game and you think he plays well, I am more showdown bound here. This is a great bluff spot this deep since you can fold so many strong hands. Against an unknown I am still peeling turn but folding river a lot

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Figured there would be something nausea inducing at some point and there it is. Particularly because of the sizing. Even though it is just a min raise it sets up villain to make less then a pot sized shove on river and you have to go first.

I think your combo count is roughly correct. Depending on the exact board and how wide villain will call preflop and flop a few more hands might be in play. Hands with a flush draw and gut shot draw might call flop. Villain might have hit two pair. He might have improved to a flush draw and straight draw on turn, in which case you are still ahead. The raw count needs to be further adjusted to account for how likely hands are to raise turn, the sets are likely to raise, other hands not so much.

Have you seen villain make any min raises before this? Depending on villain and my read on the situation I'm either calling or folding. My default in this situation would be call turn and fold river if villain shoves. Reraising/Shoving would be right only against the biggest maniacs and villain doesn't fit that category.