V is a good winning reg. Borders LAG/TAG but is playing on the tight side so far this session. I have a very TAG image.

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V $550
H $900

H utg+1 raises 15
3 callers including V from the CO

flop: 234 rainbow

H bets 50
folds around to V who calls, BB folds

turn 9

Do I keep firing here or am I in c/c mode OOP vs a good player?

Probably not a great spot to near PSB flop as it’s going to turn your hand face up.

Ap it’d help to know what you have. If i had bet smaller otf id just keep firing turn.

Ap probably still keep betting, doesnt need to be too large

****. I have QQ here.

Ive started betting big on flops because I get called with gutshots anyway. The other 2 people in the hand were mediocre (albeit not spewy bad) players and this is the only guy I didnt want to call. My hand is face up anyway, its either ATs+, AQ+, 88+ and 54s+. The table plays the "guess if he has an overpair or not" game with me all the time. I would have double/triple barreled with atc vs the 2 people who ended up folding.

V is easily capable of potting/raising river with pair+missed gutshots or if an A hits regardless if he has 2p+ or not.

I'm not a fan of our preflop result (multiway, bloated pot, OOP, with a good player winning player having position on us).

If betting the flop (which is turning our hand pretty face up) I probably bet less.

Honestly, I think by the turn the damage has already been done in that our hand should be pretty obvious. I mean, is there any hand we're raising preflop in EP and then cbetting into 3 opponents on this board that isn't an overpair? If not, then our opponent knows exactly what we have. And now he has that knowledge plus position on us for the 2 remaining (and most expensive) streets. I probably check and pray it checks thru / underreps our hand.

ETA: If we are truly double/triple barrelling air into multiple opponents, then our hand isn't nearly as face up (although honestly I think it's setting money on fire, but whatever). Is CO aware that we can do that? If so, then barrel. If not and he can be bluffy, then I guess start calling down. No?

GcluelessNLnoobG

your responses GG and always look in threads for em. The reason I almost potted in this spot is actually because of your saying "no on goes to the casino to fold draws on the flop" and 2 of the people in the pot were these types. They always raise with monsters and call with semi/draws hence why I mentioned I would have barreled the other 2 as long as scare cards didnt hit. My hand isnt face up here.

V is aware I can triple barrel but I save my barreling vs better players with combo draws instead of overs in MOST cases and of course I mix in shutting down/checking draws as well.

As played I did go into c/c mode vs this guy. Turn he checked behind.

River 8 Board is 23498 no flush. Hero?

His check behind of the turn is telling and to me makes much less likely 2 pair+ as they would not want to let an ace (very much in your range) have a free draw at the straight.

I'd bet/fold river for half pot, targeting 55 - 77, TT - JJ.

Vs a thinking player wouldnt a PSB be more bluffy? Hes capable of folding a pair here ofc.

I’d just bomb river for 2/3-3/4

I don't think we should play scared here. I'm betting flop turn river, and probably folding to raises on turn and definitely river. Lots of draws and lower PPs to get value from.

When I saw the title I was expecting something like 89T double suited with you as KK. Doesn't feel overly scary, someone may have A5 or 67, but it's a small part of the range, and low PPs and defo 2p possibilities may fold pre to EP raise.

I love the idea of betting huge on drawy flops... when we're committed. When not committed, it starts building too big a pot too quickly, imo.

Still not convinced that barrelling air into 3 opponents is ever a good idea, but I'll admit that might just be part of a very different (and perhaps profitable) style than mine.

As played (I'm cool with turn check) I think I also check the river against this guy (who you've stated is capable of making gross raises with mediocre hands). I want to get to showdown and make sure I lay claim to this big pot; risking more "value" by betting is dicey, plus we can still get value by bluffcatching / calling too-thin value bets (I'm checking to call). Plus we can still easily be behind (and 2 straight streets of checking will induce a smaller value bet targetting A high and limit our damage).

GcluelessNLnoobG

I checked called river for $80 and he showed JJ.

Ya I mean I got a really weird style because I am on month 3 of coming back to poker and I dont want to play marginal hands multiway so I fold a lot of weak top pair/strong 2nd pair hands and play all my big draws and big hands the same way. I do dub/trip barrel with overs vs 2 of the V's who folded. Im known as a super nit who sometimes shows up with air in a 1k pot. With described V's (who folded) I double barrel a high % on drawy flops based on the small amount of hands I play and because I know they are calling with all weak pairs and gutshot type hands and raising their 2p+.