The History
Villian 1 is a regular winner(currently taking a shot at playing full time), aggressive player, we have history of getting in leveling wars, and both respect each others games (often trade equity in tournaments).

Villian 2, limps far too often, but post flop seems fairly solid, not had long enough history to decide too much about him. can Very rarely (if ever) recall him 3-betting.

Hero - unsure on my image in the room, the few good players, seem to notice i play tight starting hands, but have it in me to make complete air moves post flop, or go for thin value. I think the majority, having seen me get caught a couple times making moves, think i am always at it and never have it (selective memory)

in this session, i have been playin particularly snug, no opened much, however with a surge of starting hands this is the 4th hand i have opened in a row.

The Hand
hero (300bb)
Villain 1 (250bb)
Villain 2 (160bb)
£1/£1 blinds

Hero UTG+1 open with QcQs to 4
utg+1 folds
Villain 1 calls, folds to Villain 2 in SB
Villain 2 3-bets to 22

having not seen him 3-bet much before was already suspicious at this point. asked how much he was playing, would have perhaps been willing to R/GII if he has 100ish

decide to flat. thinking Villain 1 may make a move when i only flat, and i will get the information on villain 2s hand for the price of someone elses raise

villain 1 thinks for a while then decides to fold.

Pot 49
flop is Jh 7c 5c

villain 2 checks
Hero, consider checking behind for pot control, as i was suspicious he had a bigger pair than me pre-flop. but decide to bet as Ak is also in his range and i dont want him to catch for free.

Hero bets 40 (right size?, should i have checked?)

Villain 2 Check raises all in

Hero?

Fold now given description. I personally check back flop, betting is fine though but 40 is far too much, not sure what you are trying to accomplish with that sizing.

If you think he has a bigger pair than you preflop, you can't call to set mine, so either 4 bet (if you think he doesn't have a bigger pair) or fold (if you think he does).

As played, you got your information, for the price of your own bet.

Bet smaller on flop. $30 accomplishes the same thing and saves you $10 when something like this happens. As played, this is a fold based on your description of V2.

i agree folding is the only option.. checking back and calling turn/ river maybe a better approch for future here against the villian... also i doubt he 3 bets you with anything like AJ...so his range is jj+..ak suited.. against this range your equity is about 23% (stove after flop) preflop about 42%... you are not getting the right odds to call post flop so folding was correct.. apologies about the format as am using my phone...

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Very strange flop play with a over-pair or set given Hero's villain description as solid post-flop.

Pre - being cheap about 4betting will cost you money in the long run unless you had a very good read on player behind.

Post -

Since you have a big enough history to get into leveling wars against villain he should have had plenty of opportunities to 3bet AK and mid to small pp. Since you don't indicate that you have seen this-- you are ahead of a range of 10,10+ but behind a range of J,J+. The fact that you didn't 4bet pre complicates your read on the turn. Against a straight forward player with the info you have provided this would be a fold but you have to decide if this is a spot that he is likely to try a bluff and to do so with a shove. If you estimate that he will bluff this spot in this manner 1/4 or 1/5 of the time then this is probably a thin call. If you add in 10,10 to his range then it's a call. Finally, your hand is super under repped. I think you've created a very difficult situation.

My ranging is wrong. I thot you had KK. You are behind a 10,10+ range significantly. The turn is a fold. The pre is still a problem as you would have been able to narrow his range with a 4bet.

you are confusing the two villains, the one i play the flop against i think is not going to be bluffing, and i did have a strong read he was strong. the villain who folded pre flop is the one i though capable of making moves, and would have 3 and 4 bet me with air sometimes.

I did fold and was pretty happy with it, thought his range is JJ KK AA AcKc. felt i shouldn't have bet the flop/bet less on the flop.

is that too narrow a range to put him on

no its not, even if you expand the range by being very generous in our assumptions AcJc, KcJc, 77, 88+ you're still flipping at best based on rough calc.. lemme check stove for exact nos...

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yep 51:49 villian , hero equity

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