Overcard on the flop decision
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 6
Playing 1/1 in the casino, with £370 behind in the SB.
We have 7h 7c
UTG+1 (who is and old guy who I've played a few times, he just likes seeing flops and is pretty passive) min raises to 2, folds round to me and I 3bet to 7. BB folds, Old guy calls.
Qh 6s 4c (15 in the pot)
I c-bet to 12 and the old guy tank shoves for his remaining 60.
What are our thoughts on this move and where do we think we are? What do we do?
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 599
A passive player just shoved over your flop bet, for 60BB's, and you have 70th nuts
Punt.
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 796
You did not exactly describe a player that would shove with less than 77 in this spot.
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 37,490
Super easy fold.
If he showed you anything worse than what you have you need to work on your reads.
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 3,706
What was the purpose of your PF 3-bet? Why do you think V is shoving worse than 77 on this flop?
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 91
Call flop, fold as played.
When a passive player makes any kind of raise they have a good hand don't try and overthink yourself here. Even with history.
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,201
I think this is mostly for value. It's a dry board and old dudes are tight in general and prone to having to have it to shove. You're always going to have some extra info to look for when it's a small amount of money (sorry, but 60bb in 1/1 is different than 60bb in 2/5 for 95% of people) that is potentially getting bluffed. So yeah, I would fold pretty easily normally. If you have doubts than dig for some info, but if you can't find it than let it go this time. For next time try and watch him throughout hands and see what his mannerisms are like throughout when he has strong hands, and then try and correlate strange, contrary, behavior when he doesn't.
