Hero(280): Very aggerssive player, but is new in this poker Room and has only been an hour at the table. People don't really know me and I hadn't showed any bluff. Probably have a solid image right now.
V1(240): Big gambler. Has already lost 500 in less than an hour. Can call really big bets with mediocre draws. He usually overbets when he has a really strong hands. Doesn't hero call in the river much. I know this guy from other tables
V2(320): Really aggerssive player. Has been 3betting a lot in position. Not a gambler. He calls a lot with his draws too. I've seen him get aggerssive with draws and top pair type of hands

OTH
Blinds 1-2
Hero raises to 8 on middle position with 109. V1 calls. V2 3bets to 26 on the button. Hero and V1 call.

Flop (81)
AJT
Hero checks, V1 checks, V2 thinks for a while and decides to check

Turn(81): 3
Nobody showed strength so I decide to take a stab at the por betting 40. V1 call instantly and V2 thinks for a while and calls.

At this point I put V1 on a random not strong draw. Maybe a gutshot, some random flush draw or a weak pair. V2 is taking a really strange line. I don't imagine him checking the flop with a set or 2 pair, and even more he didnt raise me on the turn. He has been playing aggerssive and is a really odd line.

River(201): 3

Hero thinks for a while and decide they are both weak. I go all in for 214. V1 instantly folds and V2 start tanking and thinks for about 2 minutes before his decision

Thoughts on the river shove?

You are repping A3 or quads. Nothing else makes sense. You need to be very selective with bluffs when you are repping so thin.

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I wouldn't call this an overbet bluff; you're basically betting pot, and you can't really bet less given that your stack is a few dollars more than the size of the pot.

I don't love this spot to bluff because the diamonds and the BD clubs both missed; villain might be more prone to bluffcatch when you shove after all draws miss.

A3 and 33 for you make sense. I'd also add KQ in there, but those aren't that many combinations, and all those were likely way in the lead OTT. If villain 2 overcalled OTT after villain 1, I think there's a fair chance he'll call the river bet as the 3 on the river doesn't change anything.

It is weird that villain 2 3-bet pre-flop and didn't cbet this flop. He might have KK or QQ? Calling 1 player maybe; overcalling after villain 1 though?

I actually wouldn't put slowplaying a set or 2-pair past villain 2. I'd cbet those hands here because the flop is fairly coordinated, but I wouldn't put it past a 1/2 player to slowplay a set when it should be played fast. When normally aggressive players suddenly shut down and call passively, that's when you should use caution, not automatically assume they are weaker than when they bet out.

no need to shove. 155 does the same thing and looks a lot stronger.

Looks like V has QQ

Yea I was thinking that too, but villain didn't just call us, he overcalled after villain 1 called. He's got to think at least 1 of you 2 has an ace.

I suppose he would have a gutshot as well here though.

3b is small but i think we have to let it go, if we call the other play will 90% call and we end up in a 3-way 3b pot w/ 3.5 SPR, holding ten high OOP to 2 players.

Turn I am probably just x/folding, V1 can easily have us beat and be trapping & was checking to PFR otf, and V2 often has QQ/KK/weak Ax that is never ever folding when you have a huge perceived bluffing range with double FD on the board and straight draws.

River is nut-worst card to bluff when the 3 pairs the board and both flush draws brick, and all straight draws brick.....

Pre/Turn/River are pretty spewy imo.

Your line doesn't make much sense because the turn sizing is too small and the board is super wet. Plus flop checked back.

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He's reping alot wider then that, literally every value hand on this board is going to check to the 3 bettor on the flop and then lead turn if checked around.

KQ,AK,AQ, AJ, A10, J10, JJ, 1010

With the action we can be sure that neither villain have a set of 10s or j's or aces. A set of 10's or jacks is totally believable for us.

As well as any other hand I listed above. All hands listed above I would fire a sizeable river bet with given the action and this board except for j10 which got ****ed.

I think it is OK because villains showed weakness but i dont like the sizing ott at all. Way too small for your story to make sense on such a wet board. Should be around 65.

Agreed with some others on here, bet like 130-140, it looks a lot more credible, and you lose 35-40bb less the times when he actually has an ace in this spot. I will say that if I had an ace in this spot I'm likely calling your line most of the time. Board is too draw heavy not to, and if I have less than A10 my hand has iproved.

As it is though, someone made an important observation. V2 overcalled on the turn. it's more likely for him to have a strong draw or a made hand, rather than an underpair. But with his 3-bet preflop, His value range looks a lot like JJ,AA (6), 1010 (1), KQs (16). He also has some Q10, K10s if he is as aggressive as you say he is, QJ, or KJs is also plausible. Yes, sets are a little less likely, but he could be trapping.

Does your line look super strong? No, but you can convince someone you have a weak ace that improved for sure. If you wanna salvage you have to bet, since he likely folds all these hands that beat you. His check on the flop with a set would a little weird, but it it plausible. He has a lot more draws than he does value hands.

Agree if you are planning this on turn, you must bet bigger -- I'd make it $60. River jam doesn't look quite so out of place and turn looks as if you are pushing them off draws.

Not thrilled with bluffing this specific river, though.

Sorry, I meant to say he likely folds all those middle/bottom pair that tie/beat you.

Bad idea to open this hand UTG with a gambler next to you and an agro decent player on the button. I don't think you're deep enough to call the 3b either, the SPR is going to be too low on the flop.

Turn bet is spew, this isn't the kind of board I want to mess around on in a 3b pot. River I think a shove is ok, we can have a lot of JJ, TT, AJ, AT, KQ shoving for value. If V2 had anything strong he would have bet the flop or raised the turn, and same with V1. Sometimes you get heroed with AK/AQ putting you on air but your line looks extremely strong.

^^ definitely agree we should be tightening up pre vs a laggy 3-bettor and whale behind us. 109s is definitely a strong SC tho. I’d definitely still raise J10s but probably fold 98s, 109s is close

The hand ended like this: