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07-07-2013 , 03:17 AM

TheBirdman

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So for the past couple weeks I've been playing a 2-15 spread game (1/2 blinds with a max bet of $15) and I was wondering what you guys think the optimal strategy is. I've been playing very tight and just value betting the **** out of my opponents, but it is very tedious. People are calling all sorts of raises out of position with J6 off and I'm sitting there for hours waiting for hands. Is there a better way to approach this game? Thanks for any input.

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07-07-2013 , 03:49 AM

DK Barrel

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limp more TPGK hands and value bet much wider.

Look into some limit strategy as it may apply here. For example if you have NFD+overcard in a multiway pot you should probably bet/raise the flop for value as you are an equity favorite (and won't be forced to fold on the turn due to the betting structure).

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07-07-2013 , 08:11 AM

DeadMoneyWalking

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Conventional wisdom was that you always bet/raised the max. Maybe not pf.

After the flop you are playing limit hold'em so always bet the max.

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07-07-2013 , 09:36 AM

venice10

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The first step is to stop thinking there is one optimal strategy. It depends on the table.

That said, hand values change compared to NL. IO hands pf go down in value. Let's say the UTG raises to 15 pf. Unless you're confident another 4 players are calling, hands like 22-77 are folds. Forget about low connectors, you'll never get paid off enough.

Post flop, you're looking to raise or fold most of the time, not call with a made hand. Draws are often getting direct odds to call one bet. If you raise, even if you aren't certain you are ahead, you can make it too expensive for a draw to continue on the flop.

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07-07-2013 , 02:04 PM

TheBirdman

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IO type hands? And the problem I have with betting for value with draws like overs and the nut flush is that if I don't hit, I just wasted that money because there is almost never fold equity.

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07-07-2013 , 02:38 PM

paradroid12

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when you have a NFD + over(s) hand, you're not raising for FE. you're increasing the pot to win more when you hit and to sometimes buy free turns in position and cheap rivers when you make a pair.

I think it's also worth mentioning that you should be making some tighter laydowns post flop since you're going to be in a lot of pots multi-way to the river where TP isn't great or a lower FD might be dominated. if you're looking to save bets, this is a much better spot to do it than calling v. raising with big draws.

consider that this game basically plays as 8/16 limit, as others have mentioned. and yes, winning at this game is tedious.

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07-07-2013 , 02:39 PM

ThaNEWPr0fess0r

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IO = implied odds.

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07-07-2013 , 04:20 PM

TheBirdman

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Oh ok, thanks for all of the advice everyone. I think I just need to stay focused and grind it out because there are some of the biggest fish I've ever seen in this game. Guys are limp calling with a huge range, including their premiums.

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07-07-2013 , 05:05 PM

DeadMoneyWalking

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Are they forming a lot of 5way flops or more? If so get a copy of Small Stakes Hold'em by Ed Miller or Complete Book of Hold'em Poker by Gary Carson. They teach how to change your thinking it big pots that are going to showdown.

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