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08-24-2014 , 02:06 AM
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Villian is the guy who buys in for $100, waits for a hand to push with, loses and rebuys for another $100. A very bad TAG player which makes my play questionable. However it felt like a good spot since his betting was pretty transparent. If he had a good hand, he was betting it and if he had a draw or nothing, he shipped it hoping for a fold. Anyways, to the hand.

I was BB w K/9 and Villian on the button raises to $7, folds to me, I call to defend. Villian has $135 to start the hand.

Flop($15) K 8 3
Hero chks, V bets $10, Hero calls.

Turn($35) 8
Hero bets $25, V callls.

River($85) 7
Hero bets $50, V tank folds.

Like I mentioned above, this guy was very transparent with his betting so when he raised pre and didn't just ship it on the flop like he was pretty much all night I figured him for a K/J k/10 range. However I wasn't going to just call down with my showdown equity in hopes I wasn't out kicked because I am pretty sure I was. So when the 8 came on the turn I figured I would turn my hand into a bluff. As you can see it worked as I made my line look like I called the flop with middle pair only to trip up on the turn. Do you think this is a good play in the long run? I wouldn't of done this against any player at the table as I used a read I gathered throughout the session.

After the hand was over, I showed my K/9 because I wanted to get a reaction out of him to see if my read was right. Which it was because he looked so pissed and said "I can't believe you bet with that, had K/Q." Whether he was telling the truth or not, it is exactly what I put him on and went for the only way I thought I could win the hand.

Thoughts!?
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08-24-2014 , 02:21 AM
Why did you bet turn?
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08-24-2014 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vecchioni27

Thoughts!?
This hand is a disaster
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08-24-2014 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Shell Gas
Why did you bet turn?
As I stated above, I bet the turn to win the hand. The line looks terrible, it's basically saying I have the 8 or nothing which is what I was going for and in hopes that my King had some showdown value as well. I put him on the K/Q, K/J and so I said I don't wanna just call this guy down...so I went for it...lol

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Originally Posted by NoExcuses
This hand is a disaster
I can definitely respect this statement...lol
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08-24-2014 , 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by vecchioni27
As I stated above, I bet the turn to win the hand. The line looks terrible, it's basically saying I have the 8 or nothing which is what I was going for and in hopes that my King had some showdown value as well. I put him on the K/Q, K/J and so I said I don't wanna just call this guy down...so I went for it...lol
I think you found the answer.
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08-24-2014 , 02:59 AM
i should elaborate.

The reason i dont like calling with k9 oop or at all is because when we flop a king we are dominated so much of the time. I know it is enticing to throw out the extra red when we already have 2 out there but the RIO outweight the cheap entry price.

On the turn i think if you have that good of a read on this opponent then we should be waiting for a better spot then trying to bluff him off top pair IMO

as played well done genius play but you will lose money trying to bluff people off top pair playing 1/2 with that bet sizing and in general IMO
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08-24-2014 , 03:05 AM
Is it folding to him a lot? Is there some dynamic wherebyoubfeek the need to defend your blind with k9?

Normally just fold pre. Sometimes you can get away with a 3 bet.
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08-24-2014 , 06:24 AM
Against this villain I would fold pre. You shouldn't look to be winning the hand on the turn as there are very few river cards that scare us in this situation.
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08-24-2014 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NoExcuses
i should elaborate.

The reason i dont like calling with k9 oop or at all is because when we flop a king we are dominated so much of the time. I know it is enticing to throw out the extra red when we already have 2 out there but the RIO outweight the cheap entry price.

On the turn i think if you have that good of a read on this opponent then we should be waiting for a better spot then trying to bluff him off top pair IMO

as played well done genius play but you will lose money trying to bluff people off top pair playing 1/2 with that bet sizing and in general IMO
Thanks and yea I can agree on this. I guess I am looking for a gin flop by calling here but when I hit just the K, I knew that I was probably in trouble when he bet out knowing he was transparent with betting. I probably could of just as easily folded the flop bet knowing I was behind losing only the $7, however I guess the part of me wanting to improve my game said f it haha.

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Originally Posted by Koss
Is it folding to him a lot? Is there some dynamic wherebyoubfeek the need to defend your blind with k9?

Normally just fold pre. Sometimes you can get away with a 3 bet.
I thought about the 3 bet pre very quickly but his FT3B was almost 0%. He never folded to 3 bets all night which now that it was brought up I can say. He always was going to the flop, however his post flop play was very easy to read. Best play here I agree is to probably just fold pre.

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Originally Posted by NO_TEETHWASH
Against this villain I would fold pre. You shouldn't look to be winning the hand on the turn as there are very few river cards that scare us in this situation.
Agreed.
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08-24-2014 , 02:05 PM
When I bluff I like to have some equity to fall back on. Here all you have is three outs (hoping for a nine). Also, I don't like the pre-flop call with an easily dominated off-suit hand, and the flop call makes little sense.

That's said there's nothing wrong with bluffing people occasionally. The next step for you is to figure out whether he'll adjust and call you down if you have ace/king or whether he's always folding if you take this line.
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08-24-2014 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by au4all
When I bluff I like to have some equity to fall back on. Here all you have is three outs (hoping for a nine). Also, I don't like the pre-flop call with an easily dominated off-suit hand, and the flop call makes little sense.

That's said there's nothing wrong with bluffing people occasionally. The next step for you is to figure out whether he'll adjust and call you down if you have ace/king or whether he's always folding if you take this line.
Great thought. Thanks for the insight.
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08-24-2014 , 02:50 PM
If when he bet $10 you put him on a better K (reason you decided to turn your hand into a bluff) just fold, you've invested $5 extra at this point. It's a dangerous game to try to bluff short stacks off of top pair, good kicker.
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08-24-2014 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ValueBluff
If when he bet $10 you put him on a better K (reason you decided to turn your hand into a bluff) just fold, you've invested $5 extra at this point. It's a dangerous game to try to bluff short stacks off of top pair, good kicker.
I agree 100% with this I do. I really think this hand was just seeing if my table image and read in this particular situation could take the hand down. I made the thread to see if the play was 100% wrong or at all logical but really looking at it I can see that it is a nuts or bluff type move which isn't a good spot to be in when he clearly doesn't mind shipping his stack and rebuying.
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