Villian UTG eff stack 900 raises to 20

UTG + 1 calls, Hero is UTG + 3 raises to 60 with KK

Button Calls the 60. V calls, UTG + 1 folds

Flop: 4 5 9 (2 hearts)

V checks, Hero bets 120, Button folds, V calls after long tank.

Turn: rainbow 7

V checks, Hero raises to 250, V shoves all in

Hero ??

Bascially I am getting 3:1 o make this call.....errrrrr

Well that is ugly. What do you know about villain? History, play style, appearance if nothing else. Any read you can get on villain? Does he ever flat AA with multiple villains in hand? Would he raise with a small pair in EP? Could he shove AhKh on turn?

Absent any other information, I would favor fold but I'm not always folding.

Raise more pre...85 sounds good.

Id fold after his long tank call on the flop...id say thats pretty indicative

3bet should have been 80 to 90

I don't think we needed to cbet that high, 105 into 185 would be fine imo.

the check raise on the turn is not tens jacks or queens (the only hands we beat pretty much) and most likely not a flush draw as he would have raise the flop if he plays them fast. If he picked up an OESD I don't see what he is limp/calling 60 with pf. His long tank on the flop can very easily be "do I raise it now", it's not always "should I call or fold".

yeah we are getting 3-1 but we have to figure we are beat the majority of the time. If we bet half pot/half pot we would have been out of it a little cheaper. The crai is a big clue that we're smoked.

I agree that this just screams flopped set or AA. With no info I can't count AKs here because not many players cr the turn with a draw. His tank feels like he was doing the math to figure out how to get your AA/KK to commit the whole stack.

As a side note, if OP took your advice and raised pre to 80-90 you do realize that he would have invested the same or even more if he then bet half pot/half pot, right?

yeah but he would have still probably bet higher then half pot there too. I would want hands like 1010, 88, FD's and two over cards to stay in the pot on the flop unless it was a wet draw heavy flop with two suited broadways which is another story

Pocket 44s 55s have a desputed easy call pre here

It helps if we have reads on villain, but I'd call. Even if QQ is the only overpair he does this with, we're good most of the time. 55/44 is not super likely.

I think its unlikely but possible...

I also thinks 99s are def in the range...

But the long tank def indicates to me he was contimplating raising the flop....90% of the time i see this im usually right.

Im also thinking he couldve been contimplating the raise on the flop with 99+...and without special reads i usually go the ladder that most random live 2/5 players are droolers....so 44/55 are in their as well.

Really need reads here.

If 44/55 are excluded...this prob a call seeing only two hands beat you and your getting about 3:1

But if it is a drooler id say....fml

More PF ... you only raised $40 into $67 with ppl behind ... dominos falling ... This should also eliminate 44/55 but maybe not 99. Less to think about.

More OTF also .. $120 into $190 with 2 opponents is ok I guess, but I would not offer 3 to 1 to my first opponent and have it turn into 4 to 1 for the next. Anyone calling here is 'in business' which should tell you to slow down.

I might check Turn through letting him think I am on AK (which your PF raise is more likely to be, maybe?). This should get a bet out of him on the River for you to call and potentially lose less chips.

If he missed and floated the Flop, betting $250 would be too high IMO to get him to the Turn with the same float (or semi-connected to the 7). Maybe $180 is better or checking to let him lead the River. There are some that will say you lose value from JJ/TT, but I dont see you getting 3 streets out of that hand, depending on the River. GL

$100 pre might even go a little more idk. just judging be the cold call on the button it looks like a good game.

even if he has all the sets it's still a bet/call

Fold, you are facing the set... his long tank on flop is a very important tell, without that I would make a crying call.

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why are you so bad at poker?

why are you betting the turn if you dont like being allin?

and please dont answer me "i bet to protect my hand from a heartdraw"

OP pay no attention to this idiot.

maybe you can answer the question for me:

why is OP betting the turn and putting villian to a decision for all his chips if he doesnt want them?

is that a bluff?

ok a bit more non offensive:

pre is to small
flop is ok as played
you should bet an amount on the turn a lower pair can call without feeling commited, unless you want to get all the money in.
so the proper amount if you want to b/f the turn is 200$