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Old 01-13-2018, 12:07 AM   #20626
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I like to sit to sit in seat 8, because I can see all the players + I can keep an eye on the dealer & make sure he doesn't over rake, especially when a reduced rake is in effect. I don't care about anything else..........hell, even Squid Face can sit on my left..........every 6th session.........
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Old 01-13-2018, 01:05 AM   #20627
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In 5 years I don't think I've ever changed seats for strategy purposes.

I do, however, change seats very regularly to get away from smelly people or people who want to talk about cryptocurrency.
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Old 01-13-2018, 01:07 AM   #20628
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Crypto is changing the world bro
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:22 AM   #20629
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If your need to seat switch outweighs the shame associated with it you probably need to work on your game.
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Old 01-13-2018, 11:18 AM   #20630
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Maybe I wasn't clear above. Seat changing discussion in this thread is over. Future posts on the topic will be at least deleted and may bring an infraction.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:14 PM   #20631
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lol now the thread is quiet for four days
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:41 PM   #20632
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We just wanna talk about seattt changgginggg maannnnn
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:11 PM   #20633
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We just wanna talk about seattt changgginggg maannnnn
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Old Yesterday, 03:18 PM   #20634
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Just dug out of my record-tying downswing at 1/3 NL, here's some giraffes for laffs.

Kinda remarkable how similar both of them were.

Both downswings were for exactly $2866.

First one started at the 1774 hour mark. The second one started almost exactly the same time later, at the 3565 hour mark.

Both bottomed out on fun little 3-7 session stretches, the first over 79 hours, the second over 76 hours.

From going into to finally getting back to even, the first one 24 sessions over 194 hours, the second one 29 sessions over 200 hours.

First one:



Second one:




Or, how I made $1,344 over 394 hours without even really trying.

Genquirewithinregardingmycoachingrates,ldoG
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Old Yesterday, 04:50 PM   #20635
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I apologize in advance as I don't frequent this thread much at all and my question is probably answered many times within, but here goes:

I've been playing 1/2 for about 7 years and am experiencing my worst downswing by a longshot. I truly believe I am actually playing the best poker of my life but want to do a sanity check to see if my results could just be negative variance or if the evidence would say I'm mostly likely not playing well.

Last July I had brief period where I didn't have to work and played 55 hours over 2 weeks, winning $2400. Since then I have played 80 hours and am down $1800. I'm assuming the 80 hours is close to statistically meaningless? Is this right?
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Old Yesterday, 05:09 PM   #20636
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Yup.
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Old Yesterday, 05:23 PM   #20637
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Last July I had brief period where I didn't have to work and played 55 hours over 2 weeks, winning $2400. Since then I have played 80 hours and am down $1800. I'm assuming the 80 hours is close to statistically meaningless? Is this right?
80 hours is nothing:



If you dig back through the thread I explain this figure a bit more, but it basically looks at every session I've recorded, pulls the 100 previous hours, and calculates the winrate based on that sample.

You're running at about -$22.5/hr over your downswing. A little on the low side of the distributions I have there for $1/2NL, but not horribly out of range.


God help you if you start playing PLO. I'm down about $1600 this month in about 80 hours of play this year. Had at least 3 big multiway hands that would have flipped the month to almost break even on their own if they'd either hit the wrap or held up against a wrap.
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Old Yesterday, 05:26 PM   #20638
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If you turn that sideways it is a christmas tree with red lights.
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Old Yesterday, 06:33 PM   #20639
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I apologize in advance as I don't frequent this thread much at all and my question is probably answered many times within, but here goes:

I've been playing 1/2 for about 7 years and am experiencing my worst downswing by a longshot. I truly believe I am actually playing the best poker of my life but want to do a sanity check to see if my results could just be negative variance or if the evidence would say I'm mostly likely not playing well.

Last July I had brief period where I didn't have to work and played 55 hours over 2 weeks, winning $2400. Since then I have played 80 hours and am down $1800. I'm assuming the 80 hours is close to statistically meaningless? Is this right?
It is important to keep in mind that 55 and 80 hour samples are both lol meaningless sample sizes.

Having said that...

You've just went on a 900bb downswing in 1/2 NL. As you can see from my giraffes for laffs above, it's pretty easy to plummet within a short amount of hours. Those giraffes above show my two instances of 955bb downswings and they both happened in less than 80 hours. However, those are the only two downswings I've had above 800bbs in 3766 hours of playing 1/3 NL (where I've posted a 7 bb/hr winrate overall). Game conditions (i.e. stack sizes, aggroness of game, etc.) as well as your style (LAG vs TAG, etc.) will have a lot to do with how often you should expect this to happen, but it also depends on your overall winrate as well as the amount of hours you've put in. If you've played a decent amount of hours over 7 years at an ok winrate, you're probably simply very lucky it took you so long to encounter a 900bb downswing.

Good luck digging out. Just play your game that has always been working for you and you will, eventually.

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