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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

12-14-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Pretty sure my giraffe (if all goes well in December) will consist of 4 lines: one horizontal, one straight up, one straight down, and hopefully ending on a straight up one.

GbutoutsidechancemystraightdownoneisextendedG
TF kinda giraffes you breeding over there gg
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12-14-2017 , 06:24 PM
Ugly ones. Probably have to hide it in a NSFW spoiler.

GwillprobablyalsobehandingoutpukebagsG
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12-14-2017 , 06:26 PM
How exciting. :')
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12-14-2017 , 08:07 PM


20/28 winning sessions. 146 hours at 11.71 BB/hr average.

I started playing live 1/2 NLHE in October 21st. I'm probably a "fish on a heater", but I hope to sustain this. NLHE is such a joy!

Loser at 3/6, 4/8 LHE. Winner (marginal) at 8/16 LHE. Loser (I've only played this extremely rarely) at 15/30 LHE. Winner at 4/8, 6/12, 8/16 LO8.

Last edited by RottPhiler; 12-14-2017 at 08:12 PM.
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12-15-2017 , 11:41 AM
I haz the olds and do not know how to poast up screen shots on the interwebz. DCFT has kindly offered to post up some screenshots for me. They will be pix of my last 3k hours. As I have stated b4 I have well over 10k since BF however most of my records are in storage and when I eventually retrieve em I'll input them and poast that up (they are on the other side of the country). That being said the graph will look pretty much like this one.

I am no longer putting in big volume. After BF I told my wife I had about 2 years of live poker left in me. Here we are close to 7 years after the fact and I am still slogging away. Most likely I will continue to play but I honestly have zero intention of ever playing more than 1k/ year ever again.

That being said as you can see by my hrs per days of the week screen shot I do not really cherry pick my days - it is quite balanced. I seldom play beyond 10 pm and am frequently in the casino by 2 in the afternoon - not exactly prime time stuff.

Will do my best to answer questions once DCFT posts up shots
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12-15-2017 , 12:21 PM
Squid's results, confirmed jelly.
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12-15-2017 , 12:32 PM
wow squid Winrates, bankrolls, and finances
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12-15-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
Squid's results, confirmed jelly.


But how much did he lose?


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12-15-2017 , 12:43 PM
Nice giraffe squiddy!

And even though smallish sample sizes per day, it is interesting that your Friday/Saturday aren't as crushing as other days (ranking 4th/5th out of seven days), plus sounds like you also have a lotta hours in "daytime", which kinda leans more toward my recent argument in this thread (which I was vastly outvoted on) suggesting that day and time is a little overrated.

Gcongrats,imoG
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12-15-2017 , 01:02 PM
well I have played a fair amt of grave in my time. I can say with absolute certainty that it is significantly more profitable. Something happens in the wee hours and normally "sane" people simply go bananas. SPC is the master of the marathon sessions. Her w/r in the overnight games is truly obscene as well as the HH's she gives me. But other than grave I think day and time are a bit overrated

also thanks for the kind words
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12-15-2017 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Nice giraffe squiddy!

And even though smallish sample sizes per day, it is interesting that your Friday/Saturday aren't as crushing as other days (ranking 4th/5th out of seven days), plus sounds like you also have a lotta hours in "daytime", which kinda leans more toward my recent argument in this thread (which I was vastly outvoted on) suggesting that day and time is a little overrated.

Gcongrats,imoG
How so? His stratospheric win rate would most likely be even higher if he played mostly evening hours. A great daytime win rate doesnt prove he wouldnt do better in the evening.
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12-15-2017 , 01:20 PM
I'm not going to rehash this all again. All's I'm saying is that, for example, Squiddy's Monday (sample size conceded) crushes almost every other day by a decent margin and I'm guessing most of us wouldn't have pegged Monday as the best day to sit at the poker tables.

GnotdoingthisagainG
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12-15-2017 , 01:28 PM
My most profitable days of 2017:

1. Sunday
2. Wednesday
3. Monday

My least profitable days of 2017:

1. Saturday
2. Friday

Conclusion: everybody has meaningless sample sizes and how you run in big pots has an enormous effect on small sample size win rates
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12-15-2017 , 01:37 PM
My 1/3 NL overall (day / hourly / hours):

Mon $15.45 393
Tue $25.63 345
Wed $9.66 221
Thu $29.58 328
Fri $23.38 368
Sat $19.52 790
Sun $21.53 1263

Overall, I'm pretty convinced it's just lol sample size and noise; I mean, there's no way a random Wed game is 3x as difficult as a random Thur game when it truth it's the *exact* same game. I don't believe it's a coincidence that the day I have the most hours in (and thus largest sample size) is closest to my overall winrate of $21.03.

GI'llpostagaininmy5thlifetimetoconfirmG
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12-15-2017 , 02:16 PM
Nice results squid! Interesting how the first 1k hours are about $90/hr and the last 2k are closer to $38/hr. Would you attribute the difference to sheer variance or games getting tougher?
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12-15-2017 , 02:38 PM
My overall giraffe also has a pretty good start out of the blocks relative to the rest of my giraffe. And if I recall Duke's does too (he posted his a year or two ago, where if I recall like ~50% of his overall profits came in the first ~25% of his hours to date).

I'm attributing mine to fish-on-a-heater-in-good-games.

GcluelessfishonaheaterG
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12-15-2017 , 02:41 PM
niether - sessions have gotten significantly shorter. Also had a really really bad stretch where I won 14$ per hour for close to 400 hours.
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12-15-2017 , 02:43 PM
Ah right, it's a sessions giraffe and not an hours giraffe.

GIwouldkillfor$14/hourthisyearG
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12-15-2017 , 03:47 PM
kudos to squid!!

imo, squid might be the best I've ever seen at watching everything important at a table without it being obvious that he is watching everything. I'm guessing this is a good skill to have.
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12-15-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Conclusion: everybody has meaningless sample sizes and how you run in big pots has an enormous effect on small sample size win rates
Bingo
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12-15-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
My most profitable days of 2017:

1. Sunday
2. Wednesday
3. Monday

My least profitable days of 2017:

1. Saturday
2. Friday

Conclusion: everybody has meaningless sample sizes and how you run in big pots has an enormous effect on small sample size win rates
That's a bit of an exaggeration. Do you really believe all of these sample sizes are so meaningless that you cant tell who is playing well and who isnt when you see sample sizes of 500-2000+ hours?

I agree that you need a massive amount of hours if your goal is to find out your true win rate within a few %, especially if you play in deep games and play lots of huge pots, but after a couple 1000 hours I think we can tell who is "really good", "above avg", "average", "below average", and "terrible". These sample sizes are not even close to meaningless.

My win rate hasnt changed much at all after the first 1000 hours or so.
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12-15-2017 , 05:04 PM
He's talking about comparing days of the week and time of day. Where most people have sub 500 hour samples collected over multiple *years* of changing game conditions.
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12-15-2017 , 05:24 PM
Very nice results squid
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12-15-2017 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
That's a bit of an exaggeration. Do you really believe all of these sample sizes are so meaningless that you cant tell who is playing well and who isnt when you see sample sizes of 500-2000+ hours?

I agree that you need a massive amount of hours if your goal is to find out your true win rate within a few %, especially if you play in deep games and play lots of huge pots, but after a couple 1000 hours I think we can tell who is "really good", "above avg", "average", "below average", and "terrible". These sample sizes are not even close to meaningless.

My win rate hasnt changed much at all after the first 1000 hours or so.
Highly doubt Squiddy's Wednesday game is 3x as tough as his Thursday game, and yet that's what his 400-500 hour sample size of each suggests, as does his 400 hour squid skid where he ran at 1/4 of his overall winrate. Even scarier when you realize ~500 hours might be a decent yearly sample size for a rec player (I typically play in the ~550 hour range myself).

If anything, I think these differences do tend to show how lol meaningless 1000 hour segments can be (and this is coming from someone who ran about exactly the same in my first 1000 hours as I did in my second 1000 hours). Not saying you can't tell a little something from results over this type of period, but getting much more accurate than "good" vs "bad" vs "meh" might be more difficult than you think.

Gwait,it'snotWednesdayNightCokeNight,isit?G
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12-15-2017 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
He's talking about comparing days of the week and time of day. Where most people have sub 500 hour samples collected over multiple *years* of changing game conditions.
Yeah, I agree with that. My best day of the week is Wednesday and by a long shot. However, anyone who has played a good amount of poker during the week from 10A-4P and has also played a good deal of poker after 8P just about any day of the week should be able to see a drastic difference in skill level, regardless of their results.
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