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Old 06-15-2016, 05:44 PM   #15251
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When I'm going good and I'm about to do something senseless I am able to pause and ask myself if whatever emotion that's driving my impending spew is worth whatever $ amount it will cost. We always say to think of the chips as bb and not money but in that one instance it served me well to look at it as actual dollars.
When I asked this question last Wednesday the answer was "yes," and I lost $3000 at the craps table. Don't carry a bunch of money into a casino when you are feeling depressed

It makes me wonder how life issues affect people's win-rates. I've been having a lot of stress recently (not sure why men get the bad rep. Women can be just as careless/insensitive/cruel) and it has definitely been affecting my play, but I've also been running like a god to compensate. In the past three months my roll has doubled from $20k to $40k.
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Old 06-15-2016, 05:47 PM   #15252
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I wanted to get a Infiniti Q 50. I have about 10k saved for it already, but would be rad to buy it with strictly poker funds. I dont have 40 hours a week to play, but maybe 25 x 25 x 52 would get me fairly close. Is that a realistic winrate for someone who used to beat 10/25 cents online on pokerstars?
Have you put in any hours whatsoever at your local live 1/2 NL to at least get an idea of how you might do?

Have you ever put in anything remotely close to 5 sessions a week at 5 hours a pop for 52 straight weeks?

It's possible. But only you (based on your prior history) know if you are actually capable of it.

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Old 06-15-2016, 05:55 PM   #15253
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What has a greater impact on winrate, standard raise size at the table, or stack size? I have a 2/5 game that has an average raise size of $20-$25 +5 per limper. But, it's a 200-500 buyin and most people buy in minimum or close to it. Players also tend to nurse very short stacks instead of rebuying. I also know a 1/3 game where most people buy in for $300 and not a lot of players maintain short stacks, and the average raise size is about $12-$15. Wondering where my time is better spent.
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:12 PM   #15254
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The 2/5 game would obv be better winrate
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:16 PM   #15255
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Theres likely better use of your finances than a fancy car.
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:17 PM   #15256
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Average BI would have higher impact

Good example is 1/2 uncapped vs 3/5 100bb.
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Old 06-15-2016, 06:55 PM   #15257
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Playing 2080 hours of 1/2 to buy a fancy whip sounds like the worst idea I've ever heard. Sink that time into some self improvement.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:15 PM   #15258
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Playing 2080 hours of 1/2 to buy a fancy whip sounds like the worst idea I've ever heard. Sink that time into some self improvement.
I don't know, I'd like to encourage anyone that wants to try such a pursuit to go for it. He's always got a spot at my table.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:05 PM   #15259
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I wanted to get a Infiniti Q 50. I have about 10k saved for it already, but would be rad to buy it with strictly poker funds. I dont have 40 hours a week to play, but maybe 25 x 25 x 52 would get me fairly close. Is that a realistic winrate for someone who used to beat 10/25 cents online on pokerstars?
Impossible to say. A lot of online winners failed at live poker. I don't think it's reasonable to say anyone would have an expected winrate of 10bb+/hr right out of the gate with no experience playing this particular game/level.

BTW, have you seen the cars that 1/2 players tend to drive? LoL

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I'm sure everyone is very impressed.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:32 PM   #15260
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I was absolutely crushing 1/1 when I played but 1/2 I don't have a lot of hours. Sorta switched to being table and slots player but starting to realize that is a bigger money pit than a nice car. I have strong poker fundamentals not sure if I have the patience for that many hours of poker. I already have a 2012 Lexus es350 pretty sweet ride but looking to have that for commuter car the Q50 for my nice weekend or out for a evening car.
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:50 PM   #15261
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Sure feels like we are being trolled.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:03 PM   #15262
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Not trolling I'm serious about cars and poker.
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Old 06-15-2016, 10:05 PM   #15263
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What do you mean self improvement ? I enjoy poker and want to use earnings for a nice car.
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Old 06-15-2016, 11:57 PM   #15264
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Nothing wrong with that. Would be a pretty interesting thread for Poker Goals & Challenges especially if you end up buying the car.
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:54 AM   #15265
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I wanted to get a Infiniti Q 50. I have about 10k saved for it already, but would be rad to buy it with strictly poker funds. I dont have 40 hours a week to play, but maybe 25 x 25 x 52 would get me fairly close. Is that a realistic winrate for someone who used to beat 10/25 cents online on pokerstars?
you are talking about putting in 1300 hours and basically playing your A game 100% of the time, since theres no way youre averaging $25/hr at 1/2 if youre not. its very hard to do this even when you have no other obligations and need the money as your main source of income. doing this on top of working a 40-50 hour/week job is almost impossible, you might be motivated right now but once you actually have to put in the work you will lose your motivation very quickly. the amount of patience and discipline it take to do this is unreal. and i have read your posts in the degen thread you would need a lot of improvement in those two categories in order to do something like this.
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Old 06-16-2016, 07:33 AM   #15266
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Bink a donkament buy a car EZ game.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:56 AM   #15267
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what RP sez. Also entitlement. I play sooo much better than these assclowns and they are slinging $$$ like crazy with sht holdings - I am card dead but ima get in the mix with crappy holdings and make it happen. I see this one TONS...then they justify it. "Well I am so far ahead of their range there...blah blahh blah...he can never call there with 2nd pair...etc etc...SO FUKKIN SICK MAN"
Yep, thank you.. I've been that dude before many times
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:01 AM   #15268
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Im just dreaming really. First off, my spouse doesn't approve me spending that much time in the casino due to past degen behavior. I also live in NY so the closest poker room takes 90 minutes to drive to. And I doubt I have the patience or discipline, also the games are probably tougher now than ever. Lastly I am making from 55-70 per hour working, so seems silly to not just pick up shifts instead. I just like the idea of buying something nice soley with poker money and I want to do this although it may have to be a nice watch or something instead of a Q50! Foxwoods has that Rolex store, I wonder if I could just keep grinding until i get one
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:02 AM   #15269
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I was absolutely crushing 1/1 when I played but 1/2 I don't have a lot of hours. Sorta switched to being table and slots player but starting to realize that is a bigger money pit than a nice car. I have strong poker fundamentals not sure if I have the patience for that many hours of poker. I already have a 2012 Lexus es350 pretty sweet ride but looking to have that for commuter car the Q50 for my nice weekend or out for a evening car.
Kinda confused and if you have touched on this and I missed it,l I apologize. So you have a regular job that pays your other bills or you play poker for a living? If you have another job obv getting in the hours is impossible. Whats the rest of the story?

Nevermind i see your reponse came as I was typing this

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Old 06-16-2016, 09:59 AM   #15270
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So what android app are people using to track live results? I see a lot about poker journal but it appears to be iOS only.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:19 AM   #15271
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Im just dreaming really. First off, my spouse doesn't approve me spending that much time in the casino due to past degen behavior. I also live in NY so the closest poker room takes 90 minutes to drive to. And I doubt I have the patience or discipline, also the games are probably tougher now than ever. Lastly I am making from 55-70 per hour working, so seems silly to not just pick up shifts instead. I just like the idea of buying something nice soley with poker money and I want to do this although it may have to be a nice watch or something instead of a Q50! Foxwoods has that Rolex store, I wonder if I could just keep grinding until i get one
Yep there's nothing wrong with setting goals like that I would just make it more realistic. 1300 hours on top of a full time job isn't realistic. I work FT also I set a goal at the beginning of the year to play 500 hours and I'm not even gonna get very close to that. If I play more than 4 sessions in a month I start to get burnt out, start playing bad and feel like I need to take two months off to recover. Putting in a lot of good hours is hard.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:21 AM   #15272
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Speaking of Poker Journal, its tilting the **** out of me lately. Crashed 4/5 times on start up on my iphone 6 (latest firmware updated).
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:42 AM   #15273
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Yep there's nothing wrong with setting goals like that I would just make it more realistic. 1300 hours on top of a full time job isn't realistic. I work FT also I set a goal at the beginning of the year to play 500 hours and I'm not even gonna get very close to that. If I play more than 4 sessions in a month I start to get burnt out, start playing bad and feel like I need to take two months off to recover. Putting in a lot of good hours is hard.
Putting in a lot of good hours while also working 40+ a week is exceptionally hard, unless you have zero other obligations.
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:25 AM   #15274
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Im just dreaming really. First off, my spouse doesn't approve me spending that much time in the casino due to past degen behavior. I also live in NY so the closest poker room takes 90 minutes to drive to. And I doubt I have the patience or discipline, also the games are probably tougher now than ever. Lastly I am making from 55-70 per hour working, so seems silly to not just pick up shifts instead. I just like the idea of buying something nice soley with poker money and I want to do this although it may have to be a nice watch or something instead of a Q50! Foxwoods has that Rolex store, I wonder if I could just keep grinding until i get one
Serious question: Are you a winning player?
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:41 AM   #15275
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Speaking of Poker Journal, its tilting the **** out of me lately. Crashed 4/5 times on start up on my iphone 6 (latest firmware updated).
Starting to think about switching to other software. Had same problem you did, I deleted/reset Poker Journal and it loads faster initially but slows down a ton over time. Plus it always tends to lose at least two weeks of data in the process of resetting...
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