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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

05-23-2016 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by munlochi
He stays and plays the same strategy but not shoving. So if he plays a hand he'll put $50 in.

One day I walked in and he had $550. That's the most I've ever seen him have.
So he'll shove $50 and if he has more than $50, he'll just bet $50?
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05-23-2016 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by munlochi
Also this. He'll win a big pot wait a few hands then go walk around for 30 to 45 minutes.

When we had hot seat promotion every 3 hours for $200. He'd play, they'd draw a name at say 1. If he didn't swap % with people and hit he'd pick up and come back 30 minutes before the next drawing and sit down.

They don't do that anymore but that was his strategy.
Sounds like you need a better role model.
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05-23-2016 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
Sounds like you need a better role model.
He's just one of the few characters at the place I play.

I buy in full. Am rarely there on the weekends when they do the promo drawings.

We are complete opposites but it's interesting to see his success the way he does it.

Yeah pretty much if he bets $50 he's just telling the table he's committing to the hand.
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05-23-2016 , 07:23 PM
Success, eh, is that what you call it?
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05-23-2016 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
Success, eh, is that what you call it?
Nothin but cheap parlor tricks
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05-23-2016 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Nothin but cheap parlor tricks
Exactly this.

I just play my game. He plays his his way.
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05-23-2016 , 08:45 PM
Alright guys, we can all drop the act. It's been fun and all, but HellofAPlaya just outted us -- there are in fact NO poker pro's.

We can all go home now.
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05-23-2016 , 08:47 PM
Somebody hit the lights

sent from my secret chat thread
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05-24-2016 , 12:15 AM
Funniest thing about these so-called crushers is how bad they are in HH discussions.

Makes me wonder, but maybe they're just trolling.
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05-24-2016 , 07:54 AM
life troll <------
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05-24-2016 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
Funniest thing about these so-called crushers is how bad they are in HH discussions.

Makes me wonder, but maybe they're just trolling.
Or maybe, just maybe, its possible that they are doing things that work that you refuse to believe will work. I love the old "they will never call with anything that you beat" I could give HH after HH where they called a massive bet with a worse hand.

Hero opens to $25 with AK. Button and BB call.
Flop K73 with FD. BB checks, hero checks, button bets $80. BB calls $80. Hero shoves $450. Button folds. UTG calls $450.

Turn and river are both Q's. BB mucks when I show.
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05-24-2016 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Or maybe, just maybe, its possible that they are doing things that work that you refuse to believe will work. I love the old "they will never call with anything that you beat" I could give HH after HH where they called a massive bet with a worse hand.

Hero opens to $25 with AK. Button and BB call.
Flop K73 with FD. BB checks, hero checks, button bets $80. BB calls $80. Hero shoves $450. Button folds. UTG calls $450.

Turn and river are both Q's. BB mucks when I show.
Not that it matters, but you could have been behind when you shoved and he called.
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05-24-2016 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Not that it matters, but you could have been behind when you shoved and he called.
Behind to what? K7, K3 or 73? Come on, seriously? He thought about it for a good minute. No way he had one of those hands and didnt check raise the flop himself.

People just assume that if you make a large over bet all in (and are under 50) that you have a flush draw.
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05-24-2016 , 08:25 AM
73, K7, K3. But yeah.
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05-24-2016 , 08:39 AM
The irony is that if he lost the hand, he wouldn't sight it as an example and he would chalk it up to bad variance rather than poor play
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05-24-2016 , 08:46 AM
You don't know if that player had a worse hand. A pair and a flush draw could be even money or slightly ahead of AK in that spot.
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05-24-2016 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
The irony is that if he lost the hand, he wouldn't sight it as an example and he would chalk it up to bad variance rather than poor play
If he had KQ, I would
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05-24-2016 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
You don't know if that player had a worse hand. A pair and a flush draw could be even money or slightly ahead of AK in that spot.
That's true, but if that's what he had it means his call was correct. It doesnt mean my all in was bad. The point is that I win a lot of big pots by shoving in spots where everyone here would say its stupid because I will never get called by worse but they do. That was just one example.

$5/$10 the other day.

UTG limps, I limp UTG+2 with KK because the button raises every time. Button makes it $45. SB calls. UTG calls. I reraise to $155. Folds back to UTG who calls. What does someone limp UTG with, then call $45, then call $155? Who the hell knows.

Flop T76 with FD. He checks. I shove for about $650. He tank calls.
Turn 3
River 4
Flush draw gets there. He mucks when I show.

So he called with what? The best I think he can have there is 99 and had a pair and gutshot and 3-1 dog to an overpair or TP all the while thinking he could be ahead and hoping I had overcards?
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05-24-2016 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Behind to what? K7, K3 or 73? Come on, seriously? He thought about it for a good minute. No way he had one of those hands and didnt check raise the flop himself.

People just assume that if you make a large over bet all in (and are under 50) that you have a flush draw.

Solid empirical evidence that we've all got it wrong. Irrefutable.
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05-24-2016 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
That's true, but if that's what he had it means his call was correct. It doesnt mean my all in was bad. The point is that I win a lot of big pots by shoving in spots where everyone here would say its stupid because I will never get called by worse but they do. That was just one example.

$5/$10 the other day.

UTG limps, I limp UTG+2 with KK because the button raises every time. Button makes it $45. SB calls. UTG calls. I reraise to $155. Folds back to UTG who calls. What does someone limp UTG with, then call $45, then call $155? Who the hell knows.

Flop T76 with FD. He checks. I shove for about $650. He tank calls.
Turn 3
River 4
Flush draw gets there. He mucks when I show.

So he called with what? The best I think he can have there is 99 and had a pair and gutshot and 3-1 dog to an overpair or TP all the while thinking he could be ahead and hoping I had overcards?
QQ, JJ?
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05-24-2016 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
That's true, but if that's what he had it means his call was correct. It doesnt mean my all in was bad. The point is that I win a lot of big pots by shoving in spots where everyone here would say its stupid because I will never get called by worse but they do. That was just one example.

$5/$10 the other day.

UTG limps, I limp UTG+2 with KK because the button raises every time. Button makes it $45. SB calls. UTG calls. I reraise to $155. Folds back to UTG who calls. What does someone limp UTG with, then call $45, then call $155? Who the hell knows.

Flop T76 with FD. He checks. I shove for about $650. He tank calls.
Turn 3
River 4
Flush draw gets there. He mucks when I show.

So he called with what? The best I think he can have there is 99 and had a pair and gutshot and 3-1 dog to an overpair or TP all the while thinking he could be ahead and hoping I had overcards?
This is two examples now. That's all I need to be convinced.



Related: two people had allergic reactions to polio vaccine once. Obviously it's dangerous and should be recalled.
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05-24-2016 , 09:35 AM
Do 5/10 players limp QQ/JJ UTG? Ive played with this guy a small amount at 2/5 and Ive never seen him do it there.

I have plenty of examples of hands like this, but there's no point in posting them. There are also examples where I overbet and villain folded so I know there are also plenty of times where I fold out a weaker hand.

My only point is that there is more than one way to play poker, but some people here seem to think that if you play a different way than what THEY think is optimal, then you must stink or that your logic is flawed. It doesnt matter that the person may have 100s or 1000s hrs of play with win rates higher or in the same ballpark as theirs. They just assume you must stink cuz you don't play like them.
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05-24-2016 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Do 5/10 players limp QQ/JJ UTG? Ive played with this guy a small amount at 2/5 and Ive never seen him do it there.

I have plenty of examples of hands like this, but there's no point in posting them. There are also examples where I overbet and villain folded so I know there are also plenty of times where I fold out a weaker hand.

My only point is that there is more than one way to play poker, but some people here seem to think that if you play a different way than what THEY think is optimal, then you must stink or that your logic is flawed. It doesnt matter that the person may have 100s or 1000s hrs of play with win rates higher or in the same ballpark as theirs. They just assume you must stink cuz you don't play like them.
Well, you limped KK, so yeah, players would probably limp big pairs expecting the button to raise, if they are only half as smart as you, right?
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05-24-2016 , 09:38 AM
And, yeah, they most likely would have L/RRed those hands.
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05-24-2016 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
Do 5/10 players limp QQ/JJ UTG? Ive played with this guy a small amount at 2/5 and Ive never seen him do it there.

I have plenty of examples of hands like this, but there's no point in posting them. There are also examples where I overbet and villain folded so I know there are also plenty of times where I fold out a weaker hand.

My only point is that there is more than one way to play poker, but some people here seem to think that if you play a different way than what THEY think is optimal, then you must stink or that your logic is flawed. It doesnt matter that the person may have 100s or 1000s hrs of play with win rates higher or in the same ballpark as theirs. They just assume you must stink cuz you don't play like them.
If your logic sucks they're probably right.
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