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Old 01-24-2016, 04:26 PM   #13001
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$5 on tips over 1600 hours does seem a tad excessive.

Otherwise, good job.
It was one 5k pot. I'll always regret that moment of weakness...



jk obv.

Thanks for the kind words everyone. I touched on it in my PGC but not here. That is not all of my results, just all of my 2/5. I wanted to limit the amount of financial info out there, but still be helpful. I have another 800 hours or so of 5/10 and PLO during that time. If only my 5/10 results were all nice and green
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Old 01-24-2016, 04:27 PM   #13002
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If you set up a differential equation for it, you'd be able to figure out if you should call or fold


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Old 01-24-2016, 04:31 PM   #13003
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These are my 2/5 results for 2014 and 2015. This is primarily Charles Town and Maryland Live!
I know it would take some work, but if you have the time, Id be interested to see your results broken down into 200 hr segments. 1st 200 hrs, 2nd 200 hrs..ect.
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Old 01-25-2016, 12:05 PM   #13004
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I touched on it in my PGC but not here.(
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Old 01-25-2016, 12:26 PM   #13005
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These are my 2/5 results for 2014 and 2015. This is primarily Charles Town and Maryland Live!
Solid!

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Old 01-25-2016, 04:10 PM   #13006
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Yea, that woulda been smart. Here:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...broke-1584876/

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Old 01-25-2016, 10:02 PM   #13007
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Accomplished a crazy one on the Poker Bucket List last night

[x] - Win a $2500 pot with Q high
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Old 01-25-2016, 10:23 PM   #13008
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But how much did you lose?
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Old 01-25-2016, 11:40 PM   #13009
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Accomplished a crazy one on the Poker Bucket List last night

[x] - Win a $2500 pot with Q high
Were you all on with Queen high monster draw versus a weaker draw? Or did you mske a big hero call with Queen high on river?
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:09 AM   #13010
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Were you all on with Queen high monster draw versus a weaker draw? Or did you mske a big hero call with Queen high on river?
I was on a draw. Villain had been straddling and raising every hand since I sat down (about 2-3 orbits) and no one was playing back at him. I also previously 3! bluffed his check raise on the flop with A5o and showed when he folded.

So he straddled in MP, I called OTB with QJo, BB called, V raised straddle to $50, I called and BB folded ($1250 effective). Flop 983r he leads $75, I call. Turn is a brick, he bets $175, I raise to $550, he shoves for whatever is left, like $575 on top and I snap call. River is a 3 and he mucks. Whole table is sitting their speechless and stunned. Guy proceeds to dump his remaining $1500 in short order.

Spewy and lucky? Perhaps. Ill advised? Most likely, but I was tired of the guy playing table captain with ATC and figured all my outs were live if he was even ahead.
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:21 AM   #13011
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But did v try to fish his K out of the muck tho?
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:57 AM   #13012
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But did v try to fish his K out of the muck tho?
That would be precious!
Reminds me of a situation where a non-regular at a poker room bet on the river & a regular [friends with the dealer] folded his hand face down ever so slightly across the betting line, which is not a 'muck line.' The visitor announced "two pair" because there was a 3rd player who was all-in ott.

The dealer then, after seeing the visitors hand & that she is holding a small pair & there is a pair on the board, announces "Two pair. Kings [that were on the board] & fours." and then looks at his friend. The dealer has not touched his friends cards, but starts to reach for them when the player realizes he has the best hand.

He quickly snaps his hand up & says call. Well the floor is called over & the regular is awarded the pot because he never announced fold & everything went down quickly - Regular lays his hand down > visitor announces 2 pair > dealer announces what the 2 pair are > regular snatches up his hand b4 dealer has his cards. All in less than 10-15 seconds.

Now, if this situation had been the reverse & it was the dealer's friend who bet the river & the visitor laid her hand down, he would have quickly snatched it up.
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:19 AM   #13013
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Lame.
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:29 AM   #13014
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Do you think you overestimated your FE on the turn? Seems like calling the turn with a plan to maybe bluff the river would be better.

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Old 01-26-2016, 01:37 AM   #13015
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Do you think you overestimated your FE on the turn? Seems like calling the turn with a plan to maybe bluff the river would be better.

nh
I probably overestimated my FE, but V also overestimated his FE. The whole hand was just a massive level going back to the A5o 3! bluff I showed.

I was also kind of drunk (so was villain, a mid 20's guy like myself) which probably led to this thing spiraling out of control. My 2016 goal is basically avoiding these spots but well ... **** happens

Call turn and reassess river was probably the "right" play, but I had no idea how big he would bomb it. Bluff shoving the river if I thought he was light is probably the best move in hindsight.
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Old 01-26-2016, 02:00 AM   #13016
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BB&V is probably that way --->, though I have never been there.
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:41 PM   #13017
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You play well
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Old 01-26-2016, 02:37 PM   #13018
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Not sure if serious.

So raise more than half of your stack with 2 over and gutter ON TURN knowing you have to call it off if V shoves, just because you're tired of being pushed around?
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Old 01-26-2016, 03:00 PM   #13019
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Guys, not strat thread or BBV. If not related to the subject, please move along.
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Old 01-27-2016, 06:45 PM   #13020
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Holy ****ing ****.

Ever since I posted here about my hot streak, I haven't had a single winning session.

Mother****ing live doomswitched/jinxed.
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:19 PM   #13021
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Holy ****ing ****.

Ever since I posted here about my hot streak, I haven't had a single winning session.

Mother****ing live doomswitched/jinxed.
Let that be a lesson to all who might consider using this thread in the future for purposes other than what it is intended to be used for!

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I don't keep track of win rates personally, only whether or not more money comes in than goes out.

Since the start of the new year, I've played 21/23 days and have won 19/21 days for a minimum of $200 at 1/2. At least twice a week for three weeks now I've had cash outs for $1k+. If this keeps up, I'll be on my way to winning the WSOP ME 2016.

For me, "heater" is putting it lightly. I'm running God mode cheat codes right now - wallhacks, aimbots, maphack, the works. Just tonight I flopped a set of fives, went running queens for fives full. Two other guys had the case queens paid off all-in bets OTR. All in the first hour of playing.

Printing money.

Waiting to get my ass kicked due to hubris.
Now that really freakin' sux! To run so good & then get bit in the buttocks for posting results over a small [150hrs?] sample size. May the moon pull the tide back the other way for you asap!

If everyone thinks the 'jinx' is in - Garick just may get his wish!

Although I don't know that posting a ~150 hour 'heater' in this thread is all that much of a 'foul,' or if it even is one....I would like to hear from those who hit a hard foul ball [with their off-topic posts] & cif they're runnin' bad......
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:14 PM   #13022
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Hi. I'm relatively new to 2+2 (which if you say it fast is trip twos😂&#128514

Anyway, I've played poker all my life, but am finally trying to get organized. I wrote my own little poker session tracker, and will start to honestly keep records. Right now, even though I'm pretty certain I'm up at my local poker club, I can only remember my last 3 visits. So I'm 15hr in, with one win of about $350 and 2 losing sessions, where I lost 3 total buy-in. I'm down $40 in 15hr of play.

Yay me.

I have two questions, and they may have been answered, and I'm sorry if they have, but I can't read 896 pages of posts. So...
1. Regarding live play sample size in relation to on-line play. I think its wrong to say someone's 75hr of live play over 2months is too small a sample size because an on-line player could have 10x the number of hands played over the same timeframe. Everyone who is playing live has the same conatraints; one table, fewer hours, have to go somewhere to play. Isn't it more like, your live play is this, and your on-line play is something else? I just think its unfair to say live play sample sizes are too small to be statsically relevant.

2. If $1/2 nl is the smallest live play game outside your buddy's garage, how does bankroll matter? If you have one or two buy-ins, and want to play, you go play. I'm dealing with this now. I have the family and mortgage and job. I can't wait till I have an envelope stuffed with $4k to go play. Obviously, I run into finding myself playing tight because i only have $300 to toss around, but if I waited until I had more (the wife or child would spend it...let this be a lesson to all of you...)I would miss out on the experience of playing and getting better. I keep myself at this limit, and will not play higher or deeper until I do get that envelope stuffed with cash. I'm certain i will if I keep reading the posts here.

Thanks for reading and sharing your game theory. 👍👍👍
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:25 PM   #13023
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If this was 1999, no one would tell you that 200 hours is a small sample size.

Internet poker basically provided statistical proof that 200 hours is a meaningless sample size.

It's not an argument of relative vs absolute.
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:30 PM   #13024
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Hi. I'm relatively new to 2+2 (which if you say it fast is trip twos😂&#128514

Anyway, I've played poker all my life, but am finally trying to get organized. I wrote my own little poker session tracker, and will start to honestly keep records. Right now, even though I'm pretty certain I'm up at my local poker club, I can only remember my last 3 visits. So I'm 15hr in, with one win of about $350 and 2 losing sessions, where I lost 3 total buy-in. I'm down $40 in 15hr of play.

Yay me.

I have two questions, and they may have been answered, and I'm sorry if they have, but I can't read 896 pages of posts. So...
1. Regarding live play sample size in relation to on-line play. I think its wrong to say someone's 75hr of live play over 2months is too small a sample size because an on-line player could have 10x the number of hands played over the same timeframe. Everyone who is playing live has the same conatraints; one table, fewer hours, have to go somewhere to play. Isn't it more like, your live play is this, and your on-line play is something else? I just think its unfair to say live play sample sizes are too small to be statsically relevant.

2. If $1/2 nl is the smallest live play game outside your buddy's garage, how does bankroll matter? If you have one or two buy-ins, and want to play, you go play. I'm dealing with this now. I have the family and mortgage and job. I can't wait till I have an envelope stuffed with $4k to go play. Obviously, I run into finding myself playing tight because i only have $300 to toss around, but if I waited until I had more (the wife or child would spend it...let this be a lesson to all of you...)I would miss out on the experience of playing and getting better. I keep myself at this limit, and will not play higher or deeper until I do get that envelope stuffed with cash. I'm certain i will if I keep reading the posts here.

Thanks for reading and sharing your game theory. 👍👍👍
So now 75 hrs is a meaningful sample. No. Why not 50 or 25 or 10.

If you can't understand how insignificant 75 hours is you either have no idea what you are talking about or you are a noob on a heater trying to convince ur self you are better than you really are
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Old 01-28-2016, 09:37 PM   #13025
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For a second I thought I wrote that.
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