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Old 12-31-2015, 10:12 PM   #12401
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Well a 5/T limit game with meh action is probably a max of ~3bb/hr... so there is a floor for you. I would say 6~8bb/hr would be very good.

*but I think all of the "what is this game beatable for?" questions are puke
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Old 01-01-2016, 03:15 AM   #12402
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What do you guys think is a reasonable WR for someone who plays only weekday afternoons between noon to 6pm with a buy-in structure of 20bb to 60bb, and most people buying for 40bb?

There is also mostly only 1 table and 2nd table is must-move that starts around 2 to 3pm.
Is this 3/6 limit, or actual NL?

For NL, gone b pretty bad, m'man.

However, a decent SS strategy will absolutely crush this game. Learn one.
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Old 01-01-2016, 01:38 PM   #12403
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Finished 2015 with 978 hours. It was a good year.

I am aiming to get more hours in during 2016, but I don't if I will set a hard number.
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Old 01-01-2016, 01:41 PM   #12404
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Fish on a heater ITT

Sick results bruh
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Old 01-01-2016, 01:43 PM   #12405
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*but I think all of the "what is this game beatable for?" questions are puke

Ur doing the interwebz all wrong
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Old 01-01-2016, 03:29 PM   #12406
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Sick results bruh
Thinking of switching to PLO where they don't respect my raises
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Old 01-01-2016, 03:54 PM   #12407
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Thinking of switching to PLO where they don't respect my raises
Or move to skc.
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:13 PM   #12408
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2015 Results - 4/1-12/31
Started playing again w/ a trip to Vegas for a wedding (not mine) then migrated to being a weekend player at my home casino.
All 1/2 and 1/3 100 BB Max Buy-In, mostly 1/3.
Fell short of probably too aggressive goal of $10,000 profit.

Sessions: 58
Winning: 39
Losing: 17

Hours: 295h 36m
Profit: $8,902
Profit Per Hour: $30.25
Profit Per Hour (BB): 10.1

Per Hour Std Dev (BB): 76.1

Best Accumulative: +$3,641
Worst Accumulative: -$1,123

By Month:
April: 31h 25m - +$1,032
May: 30h 53m - +$2,048
June: 37h 9m - +1,262
July: 19h 20m - -$829
August:37h 3m - +$3,339
September: 30h 36m - -$1,109
October: 15h 46m - +$268
November: 57h 42m - +$2,400
December: 35h 42m - +$491

Small sample size, but I crushed weekend games (Fri, Sat) and was a losing player on all other days.
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:31 PM   #12409
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2015 Results - 4/1-12/31
Started playing again w/ a trip to Vegas for a wedding (not mine) then migrated to being a weekend player at my home casino.
All 1/2 and 1/3 100 BB Max Buy-In, mostly 1/3.
Fell short of probably too aggressive goal of $10,000 profit.

Sessions: 58
Winning: 39
Losing: 17

Hours: 295h 36m
Profit: $8,902
Profit Per Hour: $30.25
Profit Per Hour (BB): 10.1

Per Hour Std Dev (BB): 76.1

Best Accumulative: +$3,641
Worst Accumulative: -$1,123

By Month:
April: 31h 25m - +$1,032
May: 30h 53m - +$2,048
June: 37h 9m - +1,262
July: 19h 20m - -$829
August:37h 3m - +$3,339
September: 30h 36m - -$1,109
October: 15h 46m - +$268
November: 57h 42m - +$2,400
December: 35h 42m - +$491

Small sample size, but I crushed weekend games (Fri, Sat) and was a losing player on all other days.
Your numbers are very similar to what I've had for the year. Weekend games are the best, that and late in tournaments as the tournament donks are busting out.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:54 PM   #12410
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+$1,096.00 for 2015, over 547.6 hours ... for a whopping $2.00/hr

Hooray? (Will have to filter out the PLO where I'm not really very good yet.)


Whole year was a really breakeven slog. Lots of long flat stretches and bad beats.

My game selection wasn't very good this year. Not a lot of flexibility in my work/play schedule, so I sat in games that were not really favorable. Weird nitty tables without any money on them, charity games without any chips left where no-one is able to re-buy anymore. A few where there were 2-3 other players I respect as reasonably good. Should just go home and not play those.


Edit: +$3,084 over 451.30 hours at $1/2 NLHE for a still disappointing $6.83/hr.

Conclusion: get better at PLO, or stop playing it.

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Old 01-02-2016, 03:24 AM   #12411
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Thanks, I appreciate it. But I'm going to nit pick "moving up." I haven't really "moved up" in the sense that people usually mean it. Instead, I have simply added 2/5 to my table selection options. What I'm doing is just looking for the game I think I can beat for the biggest hourly. So I will move freely between 2/5 and 1/2 or 1/3. I have played 5 sessions this month where I started at 2/5 and moved to the lower game because it looked juicier, or started at 1/2 and moved to 2/5 because it looked better.

My presumption, of course, is that the 2/5 game will be my preference, but it is a rebuttable presumption, and if there's a reason to move, I move.

What I'm trying to avoid is the ego thing of "I moved up to 2/5, I am a 2/5 player" and I'm just looking for the best game in the room from hour to hour.

But, really, thanks. I appreciate your support.
Yeah, I was in a hurry when I posted, but I know you well enough to know that you are ego free about playing smaller games if you think that is the best decision.

I guess what I meant to say was "congrats on getting the BR up far enough that even with having to pull out your monthly nut you are comfortable playing 2/5."
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:42 AM   #12412
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+$1,096.00 for 2015, over 547.6 hours ... for a whopping $2.00/hr

Hooray? (Will have to filter out the PLO where I'm not really very good yet.)


Whole year was a really breakeven slog. Lots of long flat stretches and bad beats.

My game selection wasn't very good this year. Not a lot of flexibility in my work/play schedule, so I sat in games that were not really favorable. Weird nitty tables without any money on them, charity games without any chips left where no-one is able to re-buy anymore. A few where there were 2-3 other players I respect as reasonably good. Should just go home and not play those.


Edit: +$3,084 over 451.30 hours at $1/2 NLHE for a still disappointing $6.83/hr.

Conclusion: get better at PLO, or stop playing it.
Outside the PLO this is my year in a nutshell. Move up to $2/5 or find some deeper $1/2 tables when I get to play.
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:43 AM   #12413
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Also very believable results, lol.
Hey! I'm not that big a fish...am i?
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:09 AM   #12414
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Hey! I'm not that big a fish...am i?

You are probably ahead of 50% of posters in this forum. It feels less because those behind you don't post results.

Winning in itself is really hard, though most are too cool here to acknowledge that.
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:42 AM   #12415
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You are probably ahead of 50% of posters in this forum. It feels less because those behind you don't post results.

Winning in itself is really hard, though most are too cool here to acknowledge that.

I you more than Zollie could
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Old 01-02-2016, 03:07 PM   #12416
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2015 Results

Hours: 138h 28m (all 1/2 except 6 hours at a 0.25/0.50 game a buddy ran a few times)
Profit: $659.50
$/hour: $4.76
Sessions won: 16/23 (69%)

BB/Hour Std Dev: 36.38
$/Hour Std Dev: $72.02


Not really a banner year, but positive is better than negative...
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:15 PM   #12417
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Go Johnny go go go!

Been playing live for a living since June (when I left my job), didn't plan on playing this long but it has been going better than expected. Been below $10 an hour the last 150 hours but here is my last 6 months (yearly too, but wasn't playing first half of year). Mostly 1/2 with a few hours of PLO (H/L), 2/5, and 1/1.

Hours: 812.15
Profit: $16,426
Hourly: 20.23
Sessions won: 59/104 (57%)

In a card room that runs 4-5 1/2 games weeknights and 7-13 on weekends. Kudos to anyone turning a profit, it is hard. I know of three players who make over $20 an hour over a large sample size (one makes an astonishing $30+ and he is fantastic, older guy does not frequent these boards). We assume there are maybe 10 others who are skilled enough to break $10 an hour long term (this is including semi-regs who do not play enough for meaningful sample). Congrats to anyone who is near break even, you are most likely top 10% in your pool. Which means your are likely to be the best player on most tables you sit down at.

Man I wish there was no/less rake.
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Old 01-02-2016, 04:26 PM   #12418
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You are probably ahead of 50% of posters in this forum. It feels less because those behind you don't post results.

Winning in itself is really hard, though most are too cool here to acknowledge that.

winning consistently is insanely hard. Soooo much goes into it. 2 nights ago I played with a dude who is generally LOCK DOWN. He was vpipping north of 80% and running some insanely retardo bluffs. He torched 3.5k in a couple of hours. Not sure why he uncorked - but recovering from that one is going to take a long time.

point is playing disciplined, focused, and well week in and week out with out going bananas aint ez
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:30 PM   #12419
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winning consistently is insanely hard. Soooo much goes into it. 2 nights ago I played with a dude who is generally LOCK DOWN. He was vpipping north of 80% and running some insanely retardo bluffs. He torched 3.5k in a couple of hours. Not sure why he uncorked - but recovering from that one is going to take a long time.

point is playing disciplined, focused, and well week in and week out with out going bananas aint ez
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You are probably ahead of 50% of posters in this forum. It feels less because those behind you don't post results.

Winning in itself is really hard, though most are too cool here to acknowledge that.
I know of 2-3 separate instances where I torched 2-3 buy-ins through bad reads/play and general stupidity. Eliminating those alone would have put me at a solid, respectable win rate.

RP, I appreciate you saying that. Puts things into perspective for me.

Let's wreck **** in 2016.
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:46 PM   #12420
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Hey! I'm not that big a fish...am i?
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You are probably ahead of 50% of posters in this forum. It feels less because those behind you don't post results.

Winning in itself is really hard, though most are too cool here to acknowledge that.
These guys said what I meant. I was contrasting your obviously truthful post to the manipulated/small sample results we frequently discuss ITT.

ETA: meant to multi quote Squid here, too. Not sure what happened.
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:49 PM   #12421
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I you more than Zollie could
I think you meant :thumbup: not . Otherwise what does that even mean bro?
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:57 PM   #12422
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These guys said what I meant. I was contrasting your obviously truthful post to the manipulated/small sample results we frequently discuss ITT.
Oh I know, I forgot to add the :winking:

If there's one thing I don't have WRT poker, it's ego. Once you start thinking your **** don't stink, you are ****.
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Old 01-02-2016, 05:58 PM   #12423
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You are probably ahead of 50% of posters in this forum. It feels less because those behind you don't post results.
Somewhat true, but there are also a bunch of posters who have extremely strong results but never bother to post their results here.
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:46 PM   #12424
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Go Johnny go go go!

Been playing live for a living since June (when I left my job), didn't plan on playing this long but it has been going better than expected. Been below $10 an hour the last 150 hours but here is my last 6 months (yearly too, but wasn't playing first half of year). Mostly 1/2 with a few hours of PLO (H/L), 2/5, and 1/1.

Hours: 812.15
Profit: $16,426
Hourly: 20.23
Sessions won: 59/104 (57%)

In a card room that runs 4-5 1/2 games weeknights and 7-13 on weekends. Kudos to anyone turning a profit, it is hard. I know of three players who make over $20 an hour over a large sample size (one makes an astonishing $30+ and he is fantastic, older guy does not frequent these boards). We assume there are maybe 10 others who are skilled enough to break $10 an hour long term (this is including semi-regs who do not play enough for meaningful sample). Congrats to anyone who is near break even, you are most likely top 10% in your pool. Which means your are likely to be the best player on most tables you sit down at.

Man I wish there was no/less rake.
There is a way to have no rake.
Be the rake.

I've had a pretty terrible last 2 months, not because of run bad but because of life issues and that shows with poker too, I played half the hours in those 2 months I usually play in 1 month. Played today and ran really good and up a lot, not even happy.

dunno what's wrong with me x.x
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Old 01-02-2016, 11:08 PM   #12425
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I made a spread sheet that will help you track your poker results for finances/taxes. Fill in your poker wins, losses, and expenses on the schedule C sheet. It will automatically fill in the data on the report sheet.

The report sheet will automatically tell you how much you owe in quarterly self employment and income taxes. The finance sheet will help you track your spending and show you where your money is going.

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I already in put some poker results from 2015 for an example of how it works.

Self Employment tax is set to 15.3% for poker pros.

I am in a state that has no income tax so if you want that configured you need to do it yourself.

I am not finished I plan on adding more things as I think of them(graphs once I figure it out). I will be adding a tax deduction section so everything will be easy to fill in on your tax forms.

Please leave some feed back or suggestions.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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