That is interesting... Some super meta play from miller perhaps.

Poker 1% is a higher level book aimed to examine beyond ABC level 1 poker.

Example makes sense, though obviously image and other elements also have to align.

You're mixing examples of his 1% book with his other "poker for dummies" book...

I would rate his latest book "the Course" a rather crappy grade, but 1% was certainly eye opening in ways beyond examples in his book, a decent, though not direct, intro to Janda.

IMO, your questions are more less a reflection of your ability as a reader, not so much of the writer.

And if you really have issues with examples in his book, you should post them in the right venue, not mixing them inappropriately in this thread.

I know you played a lot of $1/$2 and I know where you play. I'm not sure if you really believe what you are saying or not.

I disagree with you and I think it's too high. Perhaps if you ran pure and never made a single mistake you could average $1,000/week or $25/hr.

Or if you played 12-hour sessions on Friday and Saturday night there and minimized your weeknight sessions, perhaps it becomes more feasible.

I agree that the games are sickeningly great there and after moving up just a little, I find $1/$2 to be a pretty face-up game a lot of the time.

So you don't think you leave 15 an hour on the tables every time you play? I'm certain I leave a load more than that

If you are leaving it on the table, then that's what I'm talking about: Making mistakes, etc., that ultimately keep your WR lower than what you THINK it could possibly be.

so chip you clearly think the cap of a w/r at 1/2 is under 12.5 bb/hr. What do you think the cap is?

Also what do you think the cap is on 2/5?

I know I am going to lose this argument, but ...

$1/$2 is probably $17-$20

$2/$5 is $35-$40

A player who can sit there and play perfectly - absolutely perfectly - can do better. But I have yet to meet a human who can. And even when you play perfectly, you still have to deal with variance.

I just don't want people who have a job making $30K a year to come in here and think, 'Yeah, $50K a year is easy at $1/$2.' I want them to realize it's a crapload tougher than Buz indicated.

Also, my numbers are based on playing 40 hours a week, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and that means you aren't always going to be there playing 40 prime hours every week.

Biggest challenge for a good player to beat 1/2 for 25+ over a year would be maintaining discipline and focus

Not only that, I would think you would have to play 6pm -2am so that you could play during prime time hours?

What hours of the day do you play Kelly?

2-11pm with an hour for breaks. Ez game and up to get the kids to school and do some exercise

I play even later than that.

But who the **** wants to play poker for 40hrs a week, settle for a life of poverty. **** that.

50k ain't ****

For 99% of players that play in 100bb cap game, you are probably right.

I haven't ran into a lot of 1%'er myself .

First year of NLHE after moving to an area that doesn't spread LHE. Can you spot when I adjusted some of my medication and stopped playing after work when i was tired? Nice to end the year on a hot streak after breaking even for so many hands.

I should preface my room is a $300 max 1/2 with ample game selection.

The 2/5 is another story: Reg City

Do you think you are going to continue playing 2/5? or move back to 1/3 or 1/2?

I sat at 2/5 for a short session again last week a lost a 200BB BI, but got my money in 2:1 on a flip with what I thought was some lolFE (0/5 at 2/5 flips so far ) and the table seemed pretty fishy, as was the last one I played at.

I was hoping to move to 2/5 soon, but have been on the bad side of variance there so far - curious if you think the 1/2 or 1/3 games are more profitable, as I have had a lot of success there as well.

^ my previous post about 50k/year being doable at 1/2 was just a hypothetical proof of concept. I have no intention of actually doing it as I am sure I would want to blow my brains out 2-3 months in.

If I were going to grind full-time, it would be a combination of 1/3 and 2/5 with occasional 10/10 shots as the BR/game selection allowed.

My time is probably split 70/30 between 2/5 and 1/3 but I think it would serve me well to get that a little closer to 50/50. I occasionally sit down in less than ideal 2/5 games.

I continue to believe 1/3 is the best kept secret for the majority of players. 1/2 competition with a $500 max buyin. You do the math.

Makes sense - my plan was to move to playing 1/3 for the most part with some 2/5 and 1/2 mixed in. I will probably stick with that for the time being and see how it goes.

If the $2/5 games are that bad generally, stick with that $1/3 game.

problem with 1/3 at parx is there is generally no table selection to be done. they get one table and that's it. 2/5 you can have 12 tables to choose from. 1/2 you can have 20+.

Okay but how much table selection do you really need to be doing at 1/3?

The same as you'd want to do at $1/2?

Find the table with the drunk whale and harpoon him. No reason to sit at a table of rocks and grinders when there's an Asian sitting on $1k two tables over.

The only table selection needed is to see how deep the stacks are.