Sorry for the late reply, Dizzy. My path involved one step forward and two steps back before moving forward again.

I logged about 300 hours at 1/2 in 2014, but I was mostly playing drunk "for fun." I ran a $2000 roll up to $4000 and then proceeded to lose $5000 over a very short period of time. I took a few months off to save up another roll, read some books and attempted to plug some leaks. I still drink when I play now, though nowhere close to the extent of before.

Anyway, fast forward to Feb. 2015 -- I started grinding 1/2 hard playing 3-4x a week. My original goal was to log 1000 hours before moving up to 2/5. It sounded like such a far off goal but I thought the experience would be well worth it. I had a goal of playing 2/5 by the end of 2015 but I wasn't going to play 2/5 until I thought I was ready. I logged about 400 hours of 1/2 at $30/hr before I started transitioning over to 1/3 and then 2/5.

I posted in this thread a lot along the way and people told me I should start shot taking when my BR was around $10,000, but I will agree with suited fours that there is a significant transition between 1/2 and 2/5 at the room you play at. I was under the impression 2/5 was going to be a joke just like 1/2 (and maybe it is at other poker rooms), but I would be prepared for a steep learning curve.

240 hours logged at 2/5 now and my win-rate has just recently moved past my 1/2 hourly. My goal for 2016 is going to be a $50+/hr at 2/5 and be playing 5/T or 10/10 once a week if the game is good.

tldr

1) Experience is invaluable at 1/2

2) 1/3 is a great transition game and I would make that your primary game

3) 2/5 is tough. Your hourly will likely suffer and you will experience some massive swings that make you question whether it's all worth it -- but it is

Thanks for the advice man, I think I'm going to start playing mostly 1/3 with the occasional 2/5 shot since my BR is right @ 10k right now and I feel like my game has been really solid recently, and see how that goes. When you took your initial 2/5 shots did you buy in for $1k? or did you start off less.

I was speaking in jest. Thus the emoticon. I am well versed in variance. My thread was a joke. Please advise as to how I could have made that perfectly clear. Thanks.

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Creating a job doesn't mean starting a business.

I was playing a 5/10 game a few weeks ago, bought in for 1k and got to around 3k or so. Some very loose aggro player opens MP, another crazy guy who I have a decent amount of history with calls from the CO, I 3bet to 240 from the BTN, both call.

Flop comes 45t
Check check, I bet 375 expecting two quick folds

MP opener folds, CO crazy villian who constantly tries to bluff me check raises me to 2k and had me covered. Hes completely capable of having sets, all the 2pair combos, open enders, any flush draw, sometimes even complete air because he knows my range is capped to an overpair and I likely won't risk so much with it, and sometimes might even turn AT into a bluff. It was an obvious shove spot from an EV standpoint.

But I couldn't just rip in 3k, it was too much money and if I lost it all I wouldn't be able to take another shot at 5/10 for a few weeks. Anyway, I think the impact of me losing 3k is much bigger then winning an additional 3k at the time, so I'm not too upset.

Looking back though, it was such a terrible fold and if I'm not willing to put in my stack in that spot then I should have just gotten up once I was deep.

It really just depends on the game, I've since played even deeper but there weren't any players who were willing to make massive 300bb plays against me so it wasn't much of an issue.

+1

So far this year I'm at $25 an hour over 613 hours, with ~85% of the play at $1/2, and the rest being 2/5. I've been playing mixed hours, with most of my playing being at relatively ideal times, 9:00 pm to early morning.

How much do you think my WR will drop if I play only during the day, with the last action being around 10-11 pm?

Let's assume I am actually a $25 hr/winner. How much could I expect my WR to drop? 40%? 60%? 80%? Become a loser?

During the day time, it's mostly tighter players who are pretty straight forward postflop, and the loose idiots are more uncommon.

Regardless, I'm going to run the experiment for at least one month in december, I'll be starting a PG&C thread about it. ( The Old Man Coffee Crushing Challenge ).

The reason for it that I'm tired of killing myself. Getting a few hours of sleep then off to the part-time job. I've probably given away 10-15k playing tired, this year alone! Also my monthly spending would make most people vomit, when tired I buy $100 of expensive unhealthy food, large gourmet pizzas, kombuchas($4 a bottle here in florida), gluten free treats & gourmet chocolet bars...

When I'm operating on no sleep, I basically want to kill myself. It ****ing sucks bros and ladies

1 month is a pretty meaningless sample size.

It's enough to give me a feel. A feel for whether or not I can make money from these types of opponents. It only took me a few dozen hours of playing at ideal times two years ago to realize these players will give their money away if you put in the time and effort, and now almost 1500 hours later I have pretty solid evidence of my initial feel.

2 years after the feel, you're still playing 1/2 in Florida.

You have me convinced.

What were your reasons to buy gopro? I saw the stock getting battered but it wasn't on my Watclist untill last Week.

I should offer that experience to you because?

And I was trying to help you by telling you that 1 month sample size is meaningless, but clearly you think it isn't because you have hard evidence to prove it.

Then I tell you that you actually don't, because you are still playing 1/2 in a state known for its profitable games.

If someone tells me that the world isn't flat with compelling evidence, I would that think he's trying to help me.

Day games just absolutely suck. Primo games here are found between 3 and 8am.

What's wrong with playing 1/2?

^ I believe the list is:

1) Mother Teresa
2) Nelson Mandela
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14,565) Bookies
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198,223) Kidnappers
198,224) People on death row
198,225) 1/2 players

You gotta build up. Playing only part-time + major living expenses, and also also getting good at poker, takes time. Do you think anyone in Florida whose worth their salt should be at 5/T two years after starting poker because they have half a brain? I'm also a BR nit and didn't start playing 2/5 until I had BR that most people would use to take 5/T shots with.

Sneaky Pete, when you get to a table, do you require 2000 hours with each opponent before you decide whether you have an edge against them, no, you probably know where you stand against each opponent at the table within a few hours, at least a ball park estimate.

To answet ur question, to be helpful if thats ur intention, which it sounds like u want to be, but then you dont. Dont understand that contradiction.

You sound like you have it all figured out, so why are you asking those questions?

No one can offer any reasonable answer to this question. You haven't offered any indication of what your actual winrate is at 1/2, no one knows how good you play, no one knows how good your opponents play.

Just go figure it out, see how it goes.

Depends if you can adjust.

I've never had a problem beating daytime games. Maybe it's not quite as +EV but it's nice when your opponents will play very predictably and rarely put you to a hard decision.

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letzplayHU is getting a lot of grief for a pretty sweet WR.

I think the number one issue at 1-2 is stack size. If the daytime stack sizes are deep, you can make some nice money. It may be the daytime villains fold too much, while the midnight villains fold too little. Daytime you should run into plenty of regs, so learning how each of them plays will help. For bad 1-2 regs, that may take 15 minutes and you're most of the way there. gl!

SP, if you don't want to engage with people, just don't. Don't spend a post saying "you're dumb and I'm not going to engage with what you want to talk about."

I agree and I'll do just that.

Although I find it interesting that no one else actually answered his questions.

And I got grief for stating that 1 month is a meaningless sample size.

Trolls gonna troll