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I think a leak that I have developed is failing to table select or seat select when I'm at a bad table/seat. And if there are no good games in the room, then just leave.

The circus of "everybody at table limp/calls 40% of hands, we see every flop 6 handed, half the table is stationy while other half is trappy" has become the nut low for me. I used to have a ton of patience for this type of card catching game, but have lost some of that. Maybe that's due to the downswing?

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really nice graph man.

Table/seat selection is pretty important to overall winrate, imo.

The card catching game you describe is a pretty awesome table, no? Patience is certainly key at these tables as you can't force anything.

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Thanks guys, appreciate that a lot.

Congrats YGO, keep up the solid play.

I notice in ur graph that the 1st month was relatively dismal, but ur results skyrocketed after that. Did u made adjustments towards the end of June or is it just variance?

I'll update my graph in the next 8 weeks.

Well, it's a bit of both. To just briefly go over it, I've dabbled in a bit of poker online and with friends since I was young, but despite having a card game background I was only marginal having not invested a large time in studying it. In January I took my net worth of $500 (I would buy in for $100) and started driving to the casino every weekend (it's a 2 hour drive) playing about 30 hours Fri-Sunday, and after playing solid nitty poker, built a healthy roll. As my game and roll improved, I was able to slowly experiment with taking more +EV lines that I couldn't with my 10 buy-in BR.

That 1st month when I started keeping track was when I started experimenting with a more LAGish type of style, and I happened to also be running horrid, I wasn't steaming but I'd say I was upset, so tilt/playing bad did account for probably half that weekend of a 2.2k loss over 2 days. Despite the huge loss, I feel it still helped me improve my game.

Anyway, yeah my results have been improving a lot since January, and I don't at all feel I've been running like god. I've just been adjusting to the field and the players, playing more aggressively and exploiting them more has gotten me paid in many spots that my nitty image wouldn't have - also allowing me to value bet thinner and not just check down my marginal hands. My game right now is miles ahead of what is was 3 months ago, and thinking of my game 7 months ago makes me cringe lol.

Kookiefish is up 2508BB over last five sessions of $1/2 ($500 max buy-in game). Though, session before that he lost 525BB in <1.5hrs lolz.
Embrace the gambol!

Nice upswong

I admire your work ethic. Cool story.

I'm just gonna leave this one here. Bloodbath in the market this week. Down 6% since I made that post on August 10th.

So a little background first:

I'm your average guy in his early 30s. Life is great, life roll is fine. I've played cards for several years, though with one big problem. I would just...play. No studying, no analysis of my game, no tracking of my stats, nothing. I would just show up, play, and go home.

But last summer I went through a really bad downswing where I lost about a dozen sessions in a row. I guess that's all it took.

I took some time off, registered a new 2+2 account, and made a genuine effort to study and polish my game. I also browse CLP and listen to some of their podcasts. Feels pretty sheepish to say it took that long, but oh well, full disclosure.

I started tracking last summer and have officially been tracking for one year. I get to play, on average, once a week. Here is how things stand so far:

All stats are 1/2 with $5+$1, $300 max BI

336 hours, 41 minutes
63 sessions
+$7,881.00
$23.40/hr

44 wins (69.8%)
18 losses (28.6%)
1 BE (1.6%)
Std Dev ($142.18/hr)

I feel pretty good about the results so far. But the sample size is lol. Had a horrible session a couple weeks ago that dropped my WR by $3 I believe. Before that, my WR was hovering around $27-28. So just a small example of how this WR can not be confirmed as being anywhere close to steady.

I want to thank all the good contributors of this forum. As I alluded to earlier, having an asset like 2+2 was something I was missing in my game. I'll be eager to see what happens over the next few hundred hours.

Thanks for reading, and good luck at the tables.

I flop a set of 7s on an A7x board. My V & I get it all in & he flips over AA. I flip my 77.

Turn is a 7 & everyone starts cheering for an A, which tells me nobody had an ace.



I turn a straight flush. On the river the board has a pair of 8s & Js. My V goes all in.......I'm praying for quad 8s or Js.

Boom. Great job. 350 hrs is small but I mean almost no one is winning that much over that type of sample. You should be stoked!

I second the thanks to 2p2. CLP is great also.

Awesome TTBH- nice work

Thanks progress, bip. Appreciate the kudos.

For 1/3, my stats for the past year (8/1/2014-7/31/2015) are $5,523 over 320 hours for an approximate rate of $17.30/hr. W-L is 40-23.

However, my roll was at $7,000 in June. So over the past 90 hours I played in June and July I lost almost $1500. One of my biggest leaks was overplaying TPTK and overpairs, paying off two pair and sets when the villains were showing obvious strength. But these leaks certainly didn't define the entirety of this stretch. I adjusted my play accordingly, but continued to run poor.

My confidence is pretty low at this point so an objective opinion would be appreciated. $1500 over 90 hours is a lot in my opinion. Or should I get over it and continue playing as these numbers aren't meaningful til I get to 1000 hours....

Keep playing, don't sweat it. Improve your game it'll all be aight

500bb over 90 hours isn't terrible. But it's hard to play winning poker when your confidence is shot. Might need to take a break. Post some HH where the bets get big, win or lose, to get some feedback.

not to be a dick but suited fours is exactly correct. 1500 is like, 5bi. those are super common and yeah they suck but you gotta shake that **** off like night of, let alone be thinking about it enough to make a post. I've gotten into good 1/2 or 1/3 games for 1500 in a night. if you are getting in sick spots and just not winning don't really sweat it man.

variance is the one thing in the world someone with 33 buy ins in their roll where they prob only need like 14 should worry about.

worry about upping your edge, playing your A game as often as possible and having fun.

IMO, TTBH240 should feel much more than just pretty good about the results so far.

I know what I consider to be the 4 best Regs at the room I play at & I'd say, based on conversations, that they average $25 with a 66% win percentage. The only reason they don't play 2/5 there is that there are only a few games going, full of tough players. When there are some Recs in the game on the weekend, you'll see them in the game.

I've averaged $15 pr hr. over the last 645 hours since I got a session logger [March - August] and win 62% of my sessions. $20 pr hr would be another $3225.00 in profit.

A big part of my problem lately has been failing to get up & leave when I'm stuck $300 instead of grinding it out another 3 hrs+ and leaving stuck $500 or more.

Thanks for the advice mates. Maybe I'll take a break until I'm mentally in the right place.

It is nice to get off to a good start. But this is a funny game, and the streaks I've had in just 350 hours have been interesting. I can only imagine my graph over 1000 or 2000 hours. Admittedly, I had a few bad sessions the past couple of weeks. One of those in particular was downright putrid on my part. Just punted away my stack, and I felt so foolish afterward. Conversely, I recently reeled off 16 sessions in a row, and as GG alluded to in a previous post, I found myself thinking I was incapable of losing.

I say that to convey that the next few hundred hours could go several different ways. I've learned (or still trying to learn, rather) to just play my best every street of every hand, and let the rest fall into place.

I've let my WR affect some of my thinking lately. I'm always thinking if this pot will affect my WR (pos or neg) and if so, by how much. Not sure how good/bad that line of thought is.

Assuming you are playing 1/2, being stuck $300 is just part of the cost of doing business. I can't tell you how many winning sessions started out being $300-500 in the hole. 1.5 BI's isn't really much if you can continue to play your A-game.

Thinking about your WR while in a hand is generally better than thinking about how your session is going, but they're both undesirable. It's best to not think about any of that, although it is really hard for most of us. In between hands, considering your session could be ok if you're trying to assess if your confidently agressive, or tilted or off your game and should quit or take a break. You already have enough things you should be thinking about during a hand: V range, V playing style, how did he play that one hand 2 orbits ago, betsizing tells, physical tells, what was the SPR, direct odds, implied odds, what was/is my plan, did the waitress just wink at me, etc. Thinking about $ or this pot would make or break my night just clouds out the important stuff.

I've felt like Daredevil, I've felt like a pile of goo, I've played so tired that I couldn't possibly notice anything, so, speaking from experience.