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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

01-30-2015 , 09:52 AM
Why not?
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01-30-2015 , 11:12 AM
We had gone over this many times and pretty much always after wj posts his latest results.

It simply doesn't make whole lot of logical sense for someone to absolutely destroy 1/2 over a large live sample size and remain in that stake.

It makes even less sense when said player lives in Vegas.

But ya...he plays for fun and doesn't want to deal with the pressure of higher stake. Got it.
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01-30-2015 , 11:26 AM
That doesn't address whether those winnings are possible or not.

There is not some hard limit at 10bb/hr.
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01-30-2015 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bip!
That doesn't address whether those winnings are possible or not.

There is not some hard limit at 10bb/hr.
Depends on whose win rate we're discussing imo.
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01-30-2015 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Depends on whose win rate we're discussing imo.

Yours is capped at 1 broken phone a session.
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01-30-2015 , 12:09 PM
I would be happy if I could just win period at 1/3
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01-30-2015 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bip!
I would be happy if I could just win period at 1/3
My guess is you would crush 1/3 NL if you dropped your bluffing percentage to 0%, especially with (what I assume) is an awesome spewy image at this point.

Gbarelykeepingmyheadabove9bbs/hrG
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01-30-2015 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by acescracked84
There's just no way you're winning $40/hr at 1/2 over 1k hours, just impossible.
Sure it's possible. If you think that's high you should see my friend's 2/5 wintrate

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
We had gone over this many times and pretty much always after wj posts his latest results.

It simply doesn't make whole lot of logical sense for someone to absolutely destroy 1/2 over a large live sample size and remain in that stake.

It makes even less sense when said player lives in Vegas.

But ya...he plays for fun and doesn't want to deal with the pressure of higher stake. Got it.
I have a job, poker isn't my life and I don't depend on it....but I did put in 300 hours of 2/5, and will probably be more like 1000 hours of 2/5 this year. It can be tough playing higher stakes when you're shelling out $5-6k/month in expenses and trying to become debt-free at the same time. I spent way too much renovating my house and buying a nice car, finally done paying off the renovations and close to paying off the car. The $2/5 where I normally play (Red Rock) can also be a pretty tough game depending on which regs show up each day, meanwhile the $1/2 is a cakewalk and I can just relax and play on autopilot without thinking too hard. Who wants to sit in a deepstack game with 4 solid pros and some 70-year-old nits that play one hand an hour? There's usually one $2/5 table running, so no game selection there. Often plays closer to a $5/10 game because most of the pros are straddling every button and average stack size is around $1500 at night. Life is expensive, sorry if you don't like my bankroll uber-nittiness.
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01-30-2015 , 01:49 PM
Yeah it is not like you can drive 15 minutes and play at any of 15 other rooms.
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01-30-2015 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by D0UGHBOY
Yeah it is not like you can drive 15 minutes and play at any of 15 other rooms.
But that's so far! Driving to the strip feels like an eternity. Anyone who lives near RR would agree.
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01-30-2015 , 01:58 PM
WJ, what is the rake and buy in limits for your game? And can you take more than the max buy in like 300bbs or w/e when you transfer tables?
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01-30-2015 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by daniel9861
WJ, what is the rake and buy in limits for your game? And can you take more than the max buy in like 300bbs or w/e when you transfer tables?
$4+1. 1/2 is $300 max BI, but stacks can get pretty deep late night since people are reloading after they bust. Have to take all chips when changing tables.
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01-30-2015 , 02:28 PM
Seems legit to me.
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01-30-2015 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
$4+1. 1/2 is $300 max BI, but stacks can get pretty deep late night since people are reloading after they bust. Have to take all chips when changing tables.
Pretty awesome rake and BI and table change rules, imo.

Not sure why'd you'd play anywhere else given that it seems you can destroy this game on autopilot (and autopilot is fairly necessary after putting in a full work day beforehand).

Ghatersgonnahate,imoG
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01-30-2015 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
But that's so far! Driving to the strip feels like an eternity. Anyone who lives near RR would agree.
When I've visited friends in Vegas or otherwise had a car the consesus has always been that driving in and around the strip is a gigantic PITA. While I'm sure there are back ways into a lot of places, I'd probably take the lazy route and play right near my house too.
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01-30-2015 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
When I've visited friends in Vegas or otherwise had a car the consesus has always been that driving in and around the strip is a gigantic PITA. While I'm sure there are back ways into a lot of places, I'd probably take the lazy route and play right near my house too.
Yes it is a PITA. I tried to grind the Caesars hours promo for free WSOP seats and it took me 40 minutes to get there every day with traffic, not worth it. By the time I get to the poker room I'm already on life tilt. RR is 8 minutes from my house.
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01-30-2015 , 02:45 PM
I imagine if I lived in Vegas, going to the strip on a regular basis would be very undesirable.

Good job on the winrate wj94, keep crushing.
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01-30-2015 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wj94
$4+1. 1/2 is $300 max BI, but stacks can get pretty deep late night since people are reloading after they bust. Have to take all chips when changing tables.
Very nice. I think $40/hr is certainly achievable with that structure.
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01-30-2015 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bip!
DK ^ reorganize this as a histogram and then people will understand better.
Like this?



So each bar is a 25BB range.
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01-30-2015 , 03:28 PM
^perfect!
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01-30-2015 , 03:36 PM
DK are those sessions or hours? (I'm asking in my personal quest to get a better handle on the CLT.)
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01-30-2015 , 03:40 PM
I believe those are sessions (which he can confirm). One issue is that the sessions aren't all the same length... but good enough as you can see it is pretty "normal distribution" looking
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01-30-2015 , 03:44 PM
Even though session length and winnings are probably not independent (in general), I think session length is likely to go away as a factor if one assumes that most sessions are pretty similar in length. (At least I know mine are pretty consistent.)
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01-30-2015 , 03:47 PM
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Like this?



So each bar is a 25BB range.
Wow, so a large portion of your sessions end in you being up or down less than 50 bbs? That's crazy.
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01-30-2015 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Even though session length and winnings are probably not independent (in general), I think session length is likely to go away as a factor if one assumes that most sessions are pretty similar in length. (At least I know mine are pretty consistent.)

Agreed - It becomes negligible if session length variation is small in proportion to session length.
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