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[OFFICIAL] Winrates, bankrolls, and finances

View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr

Less than 0 (losing)

5 6.41%

0-2.5

0 0%

2.5-5

6 7.69%

5-7.5

8 10.26%

7.5-10

15 19.23%

10+

26 33.33%

Not enough sample size/I don't know

18 23.08%

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11-27-2014 , 10:52 PM

#8126

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

And it is certainly poker only.

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11-28-2014 , 01:20 AM

#8127

Pay4Myschool

Haz Chuck Norris 4 Dad

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 7,462

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Originally Posted by 1968

While I think its completely fine to be playing 2/5 with 10k, you are nowhere near 'rolled'. As long as there is a game to drop down to when a runbad happens. and it will happen.

Dude plays in a super soft $500 max 2/5, he'll be fine

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11-28-2014 , 01:30 AM

#8128

de4df1sh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,893

All this discussion makes me feel like a BR nit

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11-28-2014 , 09:43 AM

#8129

I.G.

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 516

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Originally Posted by de4df1sh

All this discussion makes me feel like a BR nit

That's a good thing. I had close to a 20 buy in downswing over the summer in MDL's 2/5 500 game. It WILL affect your play if the downswing goes long enough to put you up against it. (Your last "poker dollar" is on the table.)

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11-28-2014 , 02:08 PM

#8130

LoudPacquiao

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,466

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Originally Posted by I.G.

If u lose 20BI then it has a LOT to do with you as the player. U probably got way to aggro and/Or started calling down light. I'm sure u ran bad, but losing 20 us such an anomaly (if u don't suck)

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11-28-2014 , 06:40 PM

#8131

jsmo0th10

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 709

Yikes 20BI downswing. That might be the highest I've ever heard of from anyone who claims to be winning. 20BI strictly poker roll in 500 max 2/5 should be more than enough for anyone beating the game.

In 1k+ hrs my largest downswing was about 12-13 BI and this was due to a high variance, aggressive style, lots of draw shoving with pretty much no FE, overplaying hands, sick coolers/bad beats along with a big chunk of bad play.

I can't even imagine what kind of stuff would have to happen to dust off 20BI. I don't mean that in a bad way, I'm sure it's possible especially if you are playing in very deep games. Makes me sick just thinking about it

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11-28-2014 , 06:45 PM

#8132

I.G.

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 516

It was pretty ugly. I know of one reg in the room who is a solid player, solid winrate over 3500 hours of 2/5 and had a 27 buy in downswing and a 325 hour breakeven stretch.

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11-28-2014 , 06:47 PM

#8133

de4df1sh

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Originally Posted by jsmo0th10

I think losing 20 big would be fairly easily.

That's 2 bullets 10 times. Certainly possible.

Then again I'm a scared money BR nit

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11-28-2014 , 07:10 PM

#8134

Snowball2

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Originally Posted by I.G.

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Originally Posted by de4df1sh

I think losing 20 big would be fairly easily.

That's 2 bullets 10 times. Certainly possible.

Then again I'm a scared money BR nit

Yup. "If you are on a 20bi downwing then you are more likely to be a bad player than not" is a terrible misconception.

It doesnt happen that often but it does.

There are a ton of terrible players on a life heater (for now) and they dont even know it.

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11-28-2014 , 07:12 PM

#8135

bwslim69

I'm a Diva, Bruh

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 24,927

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Originally Posted by Snowball2

There are a ton of terrible players on a life heater (for now) and they dont even know it.

Wow wow...why you gotta call me out?

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11-28-2014 , 07:19 PM

#8136

tabbaker

2018 Swami Champion

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 13,788

I've never won 3+ buyins in a session. Probably only 300 hours played lifetime but is that normal?

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11-28-2014 , 07:21 PM

#8137

Snowball2

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Originally Posted by bwslim69

Wow wow...why you gotta call me out?

I hurt you because I care about you.

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11-28-2014 , 07:33 PM

#8138

LoudPacquiao

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,466

if u lose 20 buy in you are not game selecting or u are being overly aggro or u are getting involved with RIO hands

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11-28-2014 , 07:35 PM

#8139

Snowball2

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Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao

if u lose 20 buy in you are not game selecting or u are being overly aggro or u are getting involved with RIO hands

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Orrr variance?

Also how many % of live players even have 20BIs in their roll lol.

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11-28-2014 , 08:03 PM

#8140

RobFarha

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There's pretty close to a zero percent chance I would hit a 20 buyin downswing.

Think my record is 10, 200bb buy-in, I am far from a nit. Thousands of hours.

If your losing 20 buy ins -

1. Your not as good as you think.
2. You are spewing like an ATM machine in big pots.

That is not variance.

edit: to clarify, this means I lost 5k, not 10k. Considering 100bb a "buyin" even though I am actually buying in for 200bb

double edit: When I lost the 5k. probably 1500 of it was disgustingly terrible mistakes.

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11-28-2014 , 08:14 PM

#8141

bwslim69

I'm a Diva, Bruh

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 24,927

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Originally Posted by Snowball2

I hurt you because I care about you.

No

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I agree with Rob. Something is very wrong if you lose 20bi. Your play has been affected, you are spewing and probably bluff catching on terrible spots

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11-28-2014 , 08:17 PM

#8142

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

haha wow. look what I started.

Based on my limited experience with my pool. I think I probably would be good with 10 BI honestly. But I'm a stickler.

Take it from P4MS. It's not an all star line up.

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11-28-2014 , 08:24 PM

#8143

Parallelflux

adept

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826

20buyin downswings are hard to accomplish but perhaps its possible when you start playing something like 5/T and crushin that game for 10bb/hr?

Actually, 5 200bb buyin DS sounds enough likely to come across.

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11-28-2014 , 08:32 PM

#8144

oh-nahhh

Donking it

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,040

How many of you guys are MDL regs? I just finished my law school apps so now I can grind nonstop until fall! I'm gunna be hitting the tables hard for the next 7 months or so and trying to move up to 5/10 at some point(I'm a 2/5 reg now.) I'm down to meet up with some of you guys.

and re: 20 buyin downswings

back in the days of rush poker on fulltilt, they happened sometimes but were at least half tilt

if you lose 20 buyins at 2/5 500 max livecash.... your game def has issues

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11-28-2014 , 08:48 PM

#8145

I.G.

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 516

I went back and looked at my notes and I will concede that the last 4 buyins on my downswing were avoidable. The first 16 weren't.

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11-28-2014 , 08:53 PM

#8146

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

Why not post some of the unavoidable ones and see what people think. Maybe it's true. Maybe it isn't.

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11-28-2014 , 08:54 PM

#8147

oh-nahhh

Donking it

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,040

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Originally Posted by spikeraw22

Why not post some of the unavoidable ones and see what people think. Maybe it's true. Maybe it isn't.

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11-28-2014 , 08:58 PM

#8148

Snowball2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 8,640

I dunno, im down a bunch over 100bb 10bis for one of my stakes. I can guarantee im less spewy than at least 90% of ppl here and also got live sweating for numerous sessions.. i can def see how a more "aggressive" player in my spot could be approaching the 20bi mark..

But lol at always associating losses with lack of skill.. i just never had any downswing when i played 1/2 for years and i was lolhorrible.