For last 16 months, I only played part-time hours.

This is prolly real dumb question, but the "tokes +1" thing is for when u tip the dealer correct? It keeps track of that? Or is it for something else.

Edit: I'm talking about in the poker journal app.

lol you think you ran well?

No dumb questions just dumb answers.....yes the tokes are yor tip outs....not hits lol. GL sir

Got a new Iphone 4s and going to start tracking sessions again I think.

What FREE program works best? Right now I downloaded Poker Journal Lite.

Why not just spend $10 on the full version?

is it really worth it?

I mean yeah, it's $10.

If you have your doubts about dropping $11 on Poker Journal, then just use the lite version for 7 sessions and then it won't let you add any more. At that point you'll spend the $$ and then have to manually import all your data. But I'm just saying you're gonna end up getting it. Btw, WFT it's $11

just checked. it's actually $12.99. i'm a life nit. what can i say? why pay for something i can get for free?

That's the thing, you get what you paid for.

Way to derail this thread.

It is the best tracking app for iPhone, and if you can't figure out the difference between free and paid version nor can you justify paying for it, maybe there isn't any point tracking stats.

Took a shot at a juicy 2/5 the other day, and dropped 1800 at it. 950 on a 3 to 1 favorite going into the river with QQ against 56 on a 783 5 board. Then ran into chick who didn't 3b KK in the bb with my 88 on 5 high board for 600. She was playing super lag earlier but didn't 3b this time and stacked me.

Bankroll was around 10K+, and now I have to move back down to 1-2 and build it back up. Once I'm back at 10K, I will continue to take shots at juicy ones like the other day.

How do you get 120bb in on a 5 high board? Was she super aggro??

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If you're shot taking you shouldn't be blowing 15% of your roll in one shot, IMO. If your roll is 10-12k you shouldn't be shot taking with 1800 of it

Also, Chip, can you log it in Excel on your work computer for free?

I disagree. Having 3 bullets to shot take at a bigger game is ideal IMO. And leaving yourself 8k to grind 1/2nl is super comfortable (twice what you need). If anything I would think that Pay would be taking heat for his bankroll nittiness at shot taking.

I'm fine with taking the shot but why all in one night?

Don't want to derail by discussing hands here, but when an aggro person is switching gear in the middle of a hand, alarm should go off.

That's not a bad point Rumor, but for me I'd rather buy in multiple times at the same table since it allows us to get better reads on Villain tendencies and understand game flow. But since $1800 is a pretty substantial chunk of his BR, I think ideally I would've preferred to take 2 separate 2 BI shots at 2/5. Unless there was some serious droolers or whales in the game, in which case I suppose you have to keep playing your whole shot.

My monthly nut is substantially low. Only reason I would even consider playing 2/5 with only 10k bankroll. Only the juicy games is when I join in. There was one fueler whose opening range is any two gappers - AA raising, 3 fish, 2 lag, 3 grinders and myself and average stack was 220bb deep probably.

And yes, she was earlier. I was out of the game for about two hours before I came back, but during that time I was there, she was lagtard at the beginning. No excuses though, I should of seen something strange coming. I believe I spewed it, and not going to justify myself to a simple fold/shove point even though I was only 120bb's deep with $125 invested into a $320 pot.

And yes, when I do take shots at these juicy 2/5's, I but in deep to cover the whale that's fueling. First time all year that I lost a bi at 2/5, but I knew the variance would hit someday.

Seriously everything in this.

Also I'm not familiar with shot taking theory but I would assume that 2/5 tables described as "juicy" are actually not appropriate for shot taking unless you are totally fine with blowing your entire shot with one hand and going back to the 1/2 grind.

Unless you are a pro then you should definitely be taking shots earlier then that imo

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Here is the theory with shot taking. If you play 1/2 and take a shot at 2/5 in a game that's above average and your winrate is $40 an hr. At the end of an 8 hr session on average you will be up $320. If you take a shot at a juicy game your winrate could be upwards of $100 an hr. Instead of being up $320 you are now up $800. That is much more valuable in moving up permanently.

This was all based upon assumptions, but the idea is you want to be playing in a much fishier game to maximize your winrate when taking a shot.

There isn't a formula for shot taking, presuming you don't rely on poker for income.

Even the concept of a "bankroll" is kind of vague if you aren't a pro. I built my "bankroll" from basically 0 to a five figure number while in college. I had very low life expenses, so my liferoll equalled my bankroll. I was playing $2/5 and even some 5/T comfortably.

Now I'm out of college looking for a job, trying to pay my own rent, etc.

As my life has changed, so has my "bankroll". My networth is still strong... But you won't find me sitting at any 5/T tables.

Lol ok I guess I will be less vague.

I finished "shot taking" for 2/5 a few months ago. I avoided high variance tables because my "shot" variance was a major concern. I specifically chose vanilla tables and steadily increased my bankroll with no downswing, in part to luck and in part to low variance table selection.

Now I intentionally sit with drunk reg Asian 5/10 players, because I can afford the variance. When I was shot taking I (in theory) could not.

I believe either route is viable and in theory yes we want to be sitting at the tables that offer the highest wr over time, but in terms of bankroll building and variance it was more valuable to me to build at a steadier pace with less risk.

I make a full 2/5 buy in at my job every week. I'm going to take a 2 bullet shot at 2/5 for the first time. I have no poker bankroll set aside right now as I can only play on the weekends.