Well it's that time of year again, so for 2020 ....

72.9 hours of $1/2 NLHE, lost $144 for a stunning WR of -$1.98/hr.

Not my first losing year, 2012 and 2013 were both rough with a terrible downswing and some work/life stuff that was not good for my game. No movement on any of the poker rooms around here re-opening, and a lot of the home game action is $2/5 or $5/5 PLO that's outside my BR. **** 2020.

Oh, and the website I've used for years to record sessions is gone. Have my summary spreadsheet, and a detailed log from July 2019, but I could have sworn I had a backup from the end of 2019 that I can't find. So once again **** 2020

My 2020 was crazy (wasn't all of ours?). Couple months off due to shutdown. Biggest downswing ever ($10k), biggest upswing ever, great 5-card omaha results, where I focused most of my time. Relatively poor hold 'em results (lots of run bad, AA never held somehow, some play bad too of course). Very promising big monthly wins near the end of the year though. (Note: 2/2 games are all PLO, I incorrectly inputted some as hold 'em.)

2,100 hours, $45,000 (sans-promo/tourneys).

Binked one and only HE/PLO tourney I entered for $1,500, plus about $2k promo money. Not bad.

Here's to 2021!

Same as me Dumbos. Had some crazy swings this year, both up and down. I take that as a sign of me being a better player, i dont back down on any +EV spot no matter how thin it may be. Ive also played alot of my hours in high variance half/half game with NL and PLO with huge action this year.

Yeah, like you I made huge progress as a player towards the end of this year in spite of the somewhat modest overall results. Table presence, mental game, using my BR to play as +EV as possible.

After the runbad/downswing ended, end-of-year monthly profits were five figures, so I expect great things in 2021!

GG, you still beat 95% of poker players with that winrate. I am sure you played better than them and just ran like a$$ over a small sample. That's live poker for you. Get 'em this year.

its definitely true that almost any winrate no matter how low, beats the vast majority of poker players, but the vast majority of people at my table mocked me for winning about 40k a year and claimed that was horrible and anyone good at poker would earn much more than that. and yet im a 30 year winner which would be 40 times 30 for 1.2 million lifetime. these guys in my 15-30 big 0 game are so rich out here since no one is locked down like elsewhere they have no clue how broke the vast majority of the public is. remember romney told us once 47% are on govt assistance of some type and that most cannot come up with $1000 in a life saving emergency. there is usually about 100-150 players inside on any given day at between 10-15 tables going, and when i said im in the top 1-5% who win out of everyone in the room they treat me like im a fool. just because i have aspergers dont mean im dumb.

I can’t think of a good reason to be talking about how much you win at the poker table. As for why not to, it’s tapping the tank and no one cares.

I am not good at social situations either but this is a terrible topic of conversation and it’s not a surprise that you’d be mocked.

Alright, here are the results for my first 289 hours of live poker. My first poker session (live or otherwise) was on opening day at the Encore in Boston in summer 2019, where I played 1/3NL. Around the same time I started some playing microstakes on ACR (mostly 2NL but more recently 10NLZ for just ~15K hands total -- I'm +12.6 BB/100 between the two).

Before the Covid shutdown, I played ~84 hours of $1/3 at the Encore for a winrate of $25/hr. During the first few months of quarantine I played a 50c/$1 online home game on Donkhouse and won $27/hr for 44 hours. When the New Hampshire cardrooms opened up over the summer, I played some 1/2 and 1/3 at Chasers and Boston Billiard Club (38 hours total at an average of lol $3.36/hr). I played a total of 44 hours on a Vegas trip where the net result was for me to collect chips from the Flamingo and drop them off at other casinos (roughly breaking even overall).

In July I finished my PhD and my wife and I moved to Atlanta. I started playing at a new charity room called Little Kings and Queens, mostly playing 1/3 and occasionally Big O when it goes. So far I'm at $14.56/hr over 53 hours. The time charge is killer -- it's $20 to get in for the day + $15/hr, so I'm effectively paying around $20/hr since I play short-ish sessions. But I enjoy poker as a hobby and I'm not looking to make any serious money, so it's fine with me. They do have a bigger $5/5 game that (from watching the livestreams) I think I'd be comfortable playing, but just don't have the bankroll/stomach for the swings right now. Maybe that's a goal for 2021. I've enjoyed interacting with everyone (for the most part) on the LLSNL forum over the past year.

Sevencard, you play pretty tight right? Pretty sure other players don't want to play with you because you are tight, buy-in short, and often hit and run. Telling them you are winning money (and quite a bit of money considering the stakes/buy-in) is just rubbing salt in their wounds. If I were you I'd start making up stories about how bad you are running and how much money you've been losing (especially since you play in multiple rooms, the lie should be easy enough).

Dumbo, you're putting in some serious hours.

Garick would crush GG. GG needs to work on his game or continue to have mediocre results, regardless of sample size. Not trying to be mean but that's the truth.

Birdayy, how do you play just one tournament of between $10K-$25K and manage to lose $5.3K on it? That's better than busting, but worse than a min-cash??

Sevencard, you would do well to listen to Dream Crusher here. Announcing how good you are will never end well.

Hey mate, the sample includes what I've sold, so sold 50% for the 10.6k at Aussie Millions ��

Here are my results for the last ~15 months. The 1/2 omaha was the world's most insane online home game that lasted about a month and then died. I logged all of those games as one session which is why my $/session is weirdly high. I also get lazy and sometimes when I play like 6 hours of 2/5 and 3 hours of T/20 in the same day, I log it all as 2/5 so that skews my 2/5 results a bit but not too much.

I know the 1/2 PLO results sound ridiculous, but I have the screenshots of the results as proof if needed.

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The 2/5 I'm in now isn't quite as big as it was so I sincerely doubt the $63 is close to sustainable. $45-50 is probably realistic in current game conditions. I'm going to have to focus on playing more T/20 this year I think.

Nice results, sdfsgf, and congrats on completing the PhD. What subject?

You might want to find out about some home games in Atlanta. Rumor is that the charity room is on shaky legal ground and might not last. I have no idea how true that might be, but I've heard about it and I don't even live in Georgia.

Nice werk Badreg!!

Thanks Garick. I did my PhD in mechanical engineering at MIT (working on MEMS), and now I'm working at Georgia Tech.

I've heard a lot of that speculation too about the charity room, but who knows. I've chatted with the owner and several of the dealers about it, and they all seem pretty confident that they'll stay open. I know nothing about the details of gambling law in Georgia, but the owner said there was a ~9 month process of going back and forth with whatever agency, then they finally got approval in August. They've been doing legal charity tournaments for years, so the cash game part is the only new thing, but they seem to think they're in the clear. We'll see I guess.

Congrats on your academic achievements, and continued GL in poker. My understanding (not an expert) is that home games are legal in Georgia under some circumstances. IDK if they have to be rake-free, or what. I just know that it's better than Alabama, where you can't even play an unraked donkament with friends with a bottle of wine as the prize.

It was very frustrating to be 20 minutes from a casino, but no poker. Even their slot machines were technically bingo machines, from what i understand, though that all happens internally, so the user interface looks just like a normal slot.

2020 results

Meh. Continued my run of never having had a losing cash year but wasn't a great year for me at all.

Our casino closed in mid March and I played nothing til June when I got a weekly spot in a private game. The game looked very juicy and has low rake but I didn't adjust to a few players and didn't play well in the game for at least the first half of my time playing it when I actually did some work and made specific plans for both the two good players and also many of the bad players. I definitely ran way below EV, but I honestly think I left at least $30+ an hour on the table with my B and C game (which would be at least $50 if a very good player was playing)

Jan to Mar

Casino 5/10. +3975 in 62.5 hours for $63.6 ph

Jun to Dec

Private 2/5 (often with 10 straddle) -511 in 160 hours for $-3.11 ph

Overall +$3464 in 222.5 hours for $15.5ph

I'm not sure what poker looks like for me this year tbh. My private game has broken. There are a lot of other high raked (so illegal) home games and poker rooms here now so I'm going to have to take my chances with them. Our casino made all of their poker staff redundant, so I think it's unlikely we'll get much action there this year.

* also was a small winner on Bros - was doing very well at 100nl and then did the stupid thing of moving up in stakes to 200 and even some 400 and playing while inebriated. Did not end well

For live poker 2020 I got in a whopping 61.7 hrs between $1/2, $1/3 and $1/2/10. Made $5,134 so $83.22 / hr or 34.2 BB/hr. It is possible that I ran well (no schit). I deposited $100 into BOL mid year and have dummied it up to ~$4k playing MTT’s, this is after losing ~$1k in Dec by playing / running like donkey shiit.

I've said this before, but your most impressive number (I think?) is the hours / dedication. Doubt there's too many here (anyone?) approaching your 2100 hours, wow!

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If you could stretch your session length to help overcome the $20 door fee you'd probably be in the ballpark rake-wise of a lot of other LLSNL games. Due to your rake being time charged my guess is that you might be better off attempting to loosen up a bit in close cases; as opposed to, say, nitty me and my approach to my percentage-of-pot raked game (where I believe nitty play is the best way to overcome this type of rake, whereas it might actually be a hinderance in time charged games). Just something to consider.

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I'm in a similar boat. Our casinos closed immediately and have yet to re-open, so I highly doubt they'll re-open before a large percentage of the population has been vaccinated. My best guess would be I'd be lucky to see them open in the summer months but there is a worst-case scenario of them being shut down the whole year, but I guess we'll see. Although my guess is people will be flocking back in droves once they do open, so likely decent action, eventually.

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Kind of an odd question and I guess it ultimately doesn't matter but ...

How do Texas players calculate your win rate?

Do you take what you buyin for and what you cash out for or what you buy in for and what you leave with? In other words what do you say about the time you pay at the end?



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How could any time charge not be deducted from a win rate?