Yeah you guys are right, I suppose what I meant was 'negative variance' rather than 'down swing'. 1.5BI's doesn't really qualify as a downswing. Had a 20BI downswing/tilt/bad play experience at 10nl. That was more like a real downswing I guess.

It reads like James Joyce.

Well, its hard to explain. It was a confluence of things. It started way back when I went pro. I used to sit at my office job in front of a computer for 8 hours a day, which was effectively 8 hours every day of built in 2+2 time. So afterward I was in front of the computer less. Then when I shifted much of my play to live play, I was in front of a computer even less. Then I started to go outside, see friends, meet people, and I liked it. So I was in front of the computer less.

And then I hit some really tough IRL issues and I lost interest in coming online completely. In the end it was probably a good thing I ended up dealing with IRL. Then around November I even quit playing poker for the year, and there went my last interest in posting about it.

New year new start though. After living off savings for a couple months my cash position was rather, um, poor. But this week I've been hitting the homegame circuit. Next week I should be back in the casinos. And by the time February is out I expect to be back into the daily grind online. Fingers crossed! (So far so good tho.)

I forgot how fun this game is.

Thanks for the warm welcome back everyone.

Ha, I wonder how many of us here are exactly this. I am.

BTW, having a day job (even if that means sitting in front of a computer for 8 hours a day) and only playing poker recreationally (once a week for me) is really the way to go, IMO. Each to his own though.

GgoodluckatthetablesG

Best thing I have seen at a poker table lately:

Small raise pre, multiple players to the flop.
Ax-Ax-4x

Original raiser checks, checks around to terrible player on the button (TPOTB) who bets. Folds to possibly senile old man who plays very passive and check calls with everything but the nuts. Senile old man (SOM) calls.
Turn is a brick. SOM checks, TPOTB bets big, SOM calls.
River brick. SOM checks again. TPOTB bets big again. SOM calls.
TPOTB shows a middle pocket pair, SOM shows A-7 and takes a nice pot.

Now, everyone in there knew SOM had an ace, so one brave soul finally asked TPOTB why they were betting hard until the river. Answer? "I knew he didn't have a boat because he wasn't raising, so I was drawing to a boat that would beat his trips."

Found no motivation in there for myself... Although when I do remember how fun the game is I suppose I will start playing more again.

Awesome. TPOTB could also reason he gave himself great drawing odds betting pot on turn because it's a breakeven bet due to him either hitting his boat or not hitting his boat (which means he's at 50% here, right)?

Exactly! But then he bet the river - lol!

I played with a guy last summer who called pot bets on the flop and turn with bottom pair/no kicker (2-3o), rivered trips (2s) to stack someone who flopped top two. His response when someone asked WTF he was doing - I was drawing for trips.

Aren't we all. Aren't we all.

Yep couldn't agree more, I know it cost me a nice job that was at the point where they had already sent the offer letter to the job shop only to pull it back after finding out I was a poker player in a group "what do you think" interview with the rest of the team I would be leading. One of the guys in there was a regular in one of my games... Ironic really, a potential team mate is a player and outs me, and they don't want me because of it.

The only place I know that it has helped is for Wall Street jobs.

I think someone should start a thread about aggressive play. Something along the lines of learning how to play aggressive. Or something like that. Not reckless aggression, but controlled aggression.

It took me awhile to learn how to play aggressive. I think it will be a helpful post.

Stop calling so much.

I knew someone, successful player, who said that no matter who is asking, the answer to the question "What's my biggest leak?" is "You call too much." If they argue they suck. If they nod agreement they don't suck.

Its usually true.

Wow, I guess I suck because calling is weak. Especially when you play in a fish pool. I played yesterday I remember calling 3times.

But I learned the basics of aggressive play from, WCGRider. Some post I read ages ago.

Aye I know its way past November. But I just watched the final table again.

Who was your favorite November 9er.

My hat goes off to Joseph Cheong that boy is a beast. Sucks that he didn't catch an ace. He clearly was better then anyone at the table.

Yeah, well, I suck too, so no worries.

You got any interest in writing said post?

I think ill hold off on it. If a respectable poster writes it. It will get more praise. Writing a post like that will probably change a lot around here. But if I write it, It will get over looked.

I don't know KurtSF, only being here a short while myself.
but i've got a feeling...
that this forum,

aaint biiig enufff for da two of us!

(just kidding, obv)

heads up 4 rollz! you in the bay area, Kurt?

also, the quote is Lewis Carrol.

I found out recently that i'm directly related to William Faulkner, so genetics may be an explanation for my unconventional writing style.

You're not picking the best time for this.

You might be sorely disappointed.



Yeah, Oakland. I was in SF when I made the handle.

When we talk about limping in live play we should be talking about hands like suited connectors, Ax suited and small pairs, and maybe some random broadway cards like Q10, K10, QJ type hands.

I generally ask myself the following questions.

1) Do I have an aggressive thinking player to my left? If the answer is yes, I am going to either fold or raise.
2) What are the stack sizes of opponents to my left and the blinds? If I raise like J10s or 78s on the button or the CO and they shove for their 50bb stack or whatever than obviously we have fold.
3) How likely is it that I will get raised? If I limp call a raise, how does my hand play against their range/player type? Do they over value TPTK or overpairs? Also how many other people will be in the pot?
4) Is one of the early limpers prone to tarping? This is a perfect spot to limp with almost ATC becuase they always overvalue and will pay off huge.
5) What is my general table image? This also goes along with ?3 becuase if I generally am tricky and tough to play against most players to my left don't want to iso me for some reason.
6) Is there any reason I should not raise myself? Do I think I am going to get too many callers, are the stack sizes akward of others who have limped in front of me?

There is no reason to bloat a pot pre when we are going to play better than 90% of the field postflop.

Bloating the pot reduces or FE, takes away our post flop advantage, and reduces our impied odds.

Just some of my thoughts.

Nothing worse than typing out a well thought out post on my phone only to discover the thread has been closed.

One single act of logic cannot be considered art. Just as a dab of one single color on an artists palette, or one single note of a musicians instrument would not be considered art. It is in the orchestration, the thoughtful combination, of these things by which a man provokes emotion in the observer, and that is what constitutes art.

+5

In strong games, we get punished for limping. At llsnl, our opponents allow us the luxury of the option. It is foolish to dismiss as a viable option in the right circumstances.

Welcome back Kurt, good to hear everything is ok. GL in the games when u jump back in.

if you just called, folded, or raised every single decision at random, based on the second hand on your watch, or something,
imagine how hard it would be to play against you.
you would be a tough opponent. (until they figured out what you were doing, but that could take a long time.)
of course, you would be folding the nuts sometimes, but...
what was i saying??

This times a mirrion.

Hands like small pocket pairs, Ax's can definately be limped at weak tables vs passive opponents. Its not even really close.

I was in SF for the World Series and I was going to try and hit you up if you had time but you distappeared. Thanks alot for crushing my dream of seeing my favorite team in the World Series live, watching them win and.. heres the biggest part... playing poker with a 2p2 mod. You ruined my whole WS experience. I will never remember it.

Play the Mega Millions Friday Drawing with your favorite APD!

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