Hahaha this is the funniest thing ever. They fold the best hand and muck it face up thinking how smart they are just to see the entire table face palm to them.

This thursday's beginning the BSOP (Brazilian Series of Poker) tour event here in my city Curitiba. The side action is so incredible that I'm giving a shot on the 5/5 for 4 straight days. It's the juiciest game ever, rich grandpas come from every part of the country to play the main event and then fall into the cash game.

Hope I don't go broke. Playing on a 4K BR.

To be honest, I probably play fairly similar (weak/tight), but not because I think I'm better (and I'm never turning my cards up to show hero folds). Playing OOP to a 3bettor sucks balls. Getting raised on the turn OOP sucks balls. Now what? Are we getting into a pissing contest for stacks with the one other decent guy on the table, the only one that can really exploit us? I'm not; I'm aware of when I'm overmatched. I'll play versus the eight other idiots / straightforwards, thanks very much, or maybe simply get a table change if I feel like I'm getting into too many hands with you.

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So I take it this forum is mainly geared towards the best way to beat fish? Serious question

Can you expound on this in regards to this how this forum thinks? Id like to know what grains of salt Im dealing with when I read hand advice on here

No its geared towards smart poker. Game selection is the biggest key to a solid winrate.

Hows that different from what I said? Game selection IE most fish

I thought you were stating a bold statement. I have learned how to combat vs good players if needed. Not just the fish.

Well, I for one only know how to beat fish, so this comment is probably not too far off. I mean, it's the smallest live stakes NL forum there is, so I'm guessing the most common opponent is the typical live fish and thus the strategy discussed is probably mostly about beating them. Obviously villains do vary and will usually be noted in hand history.

thats who you're playing against, right?
if youre in a LLS game and youre not up against fish, then get a table change, imo.
every so often you see a post about a hand vs. 'really tough player' in a 1/2 game, and it's like, 'c'mon!'
there just arent any really tough players in those games unless thay just blew their roll on craps.

also, don't just auto-dismiss the value of studying fish; they make the same mistakes, but there are differences, and if you stop paying attention it will cost you $. like how they play and think about AK; equally bad players will be totally different. they are a fish, but you still need to have a read.
and then theres how they individually view you, and your history. this info is prolly more valuable than vs. decent regs. better players wont be swayed by image as much.

Yeah, I guess my situation is different...theres only one casino in the area, probably within a 300 mile radius, and its 15 min from my house. There are 2 poker tables and all they offer is 2/5. It is made up of probably the same 60 guys, just depends who is there on what night. Would be a horrible game if it was made up of old retiree's but its not, its a very gambly loose game made up of tricky players, who seem to not care much about money. Most nights (weekends anyways) there's probably around 6 or 7k on the table , max buy in is 500.

So theres not really an option to find a different game around here, but I dont really want to cause theres lots to be made here, I just need to learn the best strategy for this game (and each opponent obv). THATS why Im curious as to what to do when "just change tables" isnt an option.. Thats why for me personally I look for Hand advice that talks more about board textures to bluff, how to exploit certain types of players, etc - instead of "just bet when you have it and if they bet fold" kind of advice

Edit: I don't mean to suggest there's not some bad players in the game, I just meant that even the bad ones don't just play straightforward for the most part

Lol "just bet when you have it and if they do bet/fold". Yeah that's cookie cutter advice. Your main focus is to observe opponents, pinpoint they're leaks and drawing up plans to bust them.

Most regulars play consistently their own style, and each have plenty of bad habits and leaks.

i also use this strategy. I also like to show my bluffs. The problem is after i have played in a casino long enough the common consensus amoung the regs is that i am always FOS (ofc i explot this by vbetting thinish and bluffing less)

I think the forum can be too nitty/give too much credit to players having it.

This forum is an entry way forum to live NL poker. We have a wide range of posters, ranging from absolute beginners to players who make serious money coaching, playing higher stakes and/or are interview subjects on coaching sites.

My own philosophy (based on how I learned) is the best way to learn is to respond to threads with your own thought process. At first, you'll be embarrassed by the shout downs. Over time, you'll find you'll really strengthen your game to the point you'll complain to me that the threads are all basic and I'll tell you it is time to move to the next forum up on the strat chain. One result is that the "advice" given is going to be uneven and to an advanced player, the questions won't be challenging. That isn't going to change on this forum.

As for the fish. To Phil Ivey, everyone posting in this forum and the next live forum up is a fish. A fish is simply a player that is technically quite weaker than you are. Keep that fact in mind when you decided to berate a "fish."

I haven't been active here lately or played much in the past month (work demands/start of basketball season), but when I played last week, I realized how valuable the time I spend here is to me as a player. There are fewer threads/posts/posters that give me real insight than when I first started posting here, but on the flip side I think (hope?) my posts are more worthwhile to other members than they were a year ago.
My last few sessions were good (except for one night of epic run bad in 45 minutes: KK<TT, AA<10-7, and QQ ran into a slow played KK with a 50 BB stack on a 7 high flop/turn - sigh), but I didn't feel my thought process was as sharp as it should be because I had not been making my mind work on the board.

This will, of course, be corrected.

I'm going to my local charity room tomorrow to play my first hands of poker since black friday. I played at this place regularly for a few months two summers ago and while it was certainly tougher than the closest casino games it was still a good game. I'm only taking two 60bb bullets for teh 1/2 game since I'm not sure what to expect or if I'll even remember how to play well lol. Goal is to nit it up and try to get the old gears in motion and juices flowing again.

Had to get a real life job after black friday and it took this long to get enough extra money to invest in a brand new bankroll (old roll stuck on ftp). I'd be thrilled if I can build a roll for 2/5 within a couple of months but for now I just want to get comfortable again. Wish me luck guys!

Expect that they aren't bluffing.

Good luck

bumping this post because I'm still not sure if I'm too nitty in the SB.

edit: stakes are 1/2 or 2/5

next forum up being MSNL? i dont hang out there much, but i take it there are a lot of live hands compared to online? isn't it all 5/10+ though? so you can't post a 2/5 hand there...?

pg depends on structure of the game. I.e I would complete almost everything in a 2/3 game and less in a 2/5.

thanks. stakes are 1/2 or 2/5

I play nothing but 1/2. Most villains there are so passive that when they show aggression in certain spots they pretty much always have it.

They do bluff in some spots but they suck at bluffing and will either size terribly or will take lines that don't make sense.

I have a tight completion range from the SB at 1/2, and even tighter with 2/5. My completion range would not be far off from my over limping range on the CO and HJ.