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Old 03-19-2019, 01:42 PM   #342326
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FWIW I played with Harrington at $10/20 last year and dear lord he was awful. He managed to simultaneously be a nit and a spewtard. He 2-outed a friend of mine in a big pot though lmao.
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:44 PM   #342327
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1) I believe science actually knows about 2% of what goes on upstairs. So there's no credential you can have that will make me trust you with my brain.

2) There is a perverse profit motive to extend therapy needlessly or sell drugs.

3) I don't see a whole lot of difference between psychiatry and drug dealers

4) Most people are depressed because they are ass holes. What they really need is a friend. But they can't make a friend because they're ass holes. So they hire one, and it makes them feel better. A hooker is half the price and 5x more effective.

5) The DSM V has a diagnosis for 75% of the population. So what what is normal anyway?

Once upon a time 4,000 kids a year were diagnosed with ADD. Then Ritalin was invented and the next year 400,000 kids got it. Who in the world would trust those "doctors"?

Once upon a time, people who couldn't control their eating habits were called fat slobs. Then they invented a pill that makes food taste like ****. Then, when the DSM got revised to version V, they added a diagnosis for "binge eating". And advertising for the ****-taste-pill were everywhere.

It's not clear to me who is being treated by psychology, and who is being exploited by it.

Let's call psychology what it is.....it's a a fringe branch of science that's being weaponized by the progressive left in order to create an unchecked, unelected body of "experts" that gets to decide who can and can't have guns.
lulz bro.

There's obviously some valid points mixed into your list, there.

I'll just say - in regards to #5 - your family doctor has a list of diagnoses that about 100% of the population will have. You see a doctor for cancer.. and some people see the doctor for the sniffles with a touch of sore throat.

Behavioral health issues probably affect everyone, at one time or another.

I am definitely not going to be a proponent of meds for the general population of people with mild mental health concerns.

And I know that the benefits of psychotherapy are hard to prove. Valid concerns there.

What I do believe, is that if people approach psychotherapy with an open mind and a desire to change, they tend to get very good results. (One might argue that people wired like this would also benefit from self-help books or simply reading The Serenity Prayer over and over, and that might actually be true I dunno...).
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:45 PM   #342328
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The one therapist, that I know of, in my local home game scene has the nut worst mental game. Dude can tilt spew like nobody.

Wes, my concern about professional therapy scene in the U.S. is a lack of motivation to work on getting patients off of prescription drugs once they've started. Do you think this is a problem?
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:46 PM   #342329
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FWIW I played with Harrington at $10/20 last year and dear lord he was awful. He managed to simultaneously be a nit and a spewtard. He 2-outed a friend of mine in a big pot though lmao.
Yeah, I remember you mentioning that before.

Luckily I'm just some lowly 1/3 NL player and just have to be slightly better than the worst of the worst to outrun the rake. I don't agree with all the ideas in HOC (nor in any book I've read) but I found enough useful stuff for it to be very useful for the games / lol stakes I play.

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Old 03-19-2019, 01:48 PM   #342330
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What % of kids who self-harm, commit suicide, or commit violent crimes like school shootings are on prescription drugs for "chemical imbalances"?
I dunno but correlation is not causation, anyway.

Yes - kids are waay overmedicated in this country.

Yes - some kids benefit a ****-ton from behvaioral health medications.

Both are true imo
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:48 PM   #342331
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The immediate reason to overlimp AJs is if UTG is the one who open limped. UTG open limps have a surprisingly high weighting to top 3% of hands.

There are many other less black and white answers as to why overlimping might be preferred. The Best would open limp it in ep and would surely overlimp it from any position.

I have asked quite a few strong online players about the idea of limping in live games and the few who weren’t too proud to immediately dismiss the idea gave me some great feedback. It has to do with realizing equity and allowing vastly expanded ranges into the pot that you dominate, assuming you can’t thin the field appropriately to begin with.
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:49 PM   #342332
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Wes and other newcomers to the thread, learn to quickly ignore new accounts with a 16 post count and maga in their username.
...or a previously banned "terrible poster"......
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:50 PM   #342333
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Well, the fact that some people think Donald "I have the best words" Trump is a good leader makes me feel better about myself. No matter how badly I feel about myself I'll never be that stupid.
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:52 PM   #342334
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Here's a fun read.

Read how Ms Barnhorst decided that she gets to be the judge that strips a man of his 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendment rights just to cover her own ass. She literally says that she imprisoned a man without due process because she didn't want it on her conscience if she made a mistake.

And Ms Barnhorst isn't some fringe therapist. She was chosen by the NY times to represent the mental health community following the Parkland Shooting

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/o...-shooters.html
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:53 PM   #342335
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:55 PM   #342336
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Love when taking a shot goes all wrong. Ugh. That's what rolls are for, but feels like the worst time for run bad!

Back to red chips sir!
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:55 PM   #342337
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Yeah, personally I’m not too proud to say that I don’t overlimp A-Js in EP or MP, and I’m usually looking to smash the board super hard, or continue cautiously the times that I hit top pair. It makes a lot of sense in live games that you’d want to keep dominated suites cards in, because that’s a good chance to stack someone, which is better than raising 5-6x and potentially just ending up heads up against a V with A-Qo.

I don’t do this as a rule like GG though, it mostly depends on the kind of range that I think UTG/EP player/s are likely to limp with. Some players are better to raise imo.
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:58 PM   #342338
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The one therapist, that I know of, in my local home game scene has the nut worst mental game. Dude can tilt spew like nobody.

Wes, my concern about professional therapy scene in the U.S. is a lack of motivation to work on getting patients off of prescription drugs once they've started. Do you think this is a problem?
Mixed answer:

-- Therapists run the gamut, from those who think meds are evil/waste; those who are pretty indifferent; those who over-refer their clients to see psychiatrists for med evals.

-- To me, a client who is in therapy is generally a good thing. They are hopefully working on the way they change their (probably negative and irrational) thinking patterns, whether or not they are on meds.

-- Some people are on low dose anti-depressants that are - in many ways - a benign placebo. They are now feeling better. If it ain't broke don't fix it.... Is that ok? Maybe...?

-- I never felt like a 'great' therapist because - to me - improving your mood is ultimately fairly simple (but hard for some). What happens is neither good or bad - it's how we think about it, what we do about it that matters.
-------- Waaay easier to complain vs make a change. (that said, comes much easier to some than others...)
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Old 03-19-2019, 01:59 PM   #342339
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So many different sub-threads to follow here.

I appreciate the view into the abyss as provided by both Sabr and MAGAhat
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:10 PM   #342340
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Whatís your fav MLB team btw?
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Mike Trout extended for 12 years and a record 430 million today. He'll still be underpaid lol.
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:11 PM   #342341
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People who got their PhD in clinical psychology are 3.8 gpa+ 1400 SAT+ students who had their choice of career and chose to go into a career where they help people. It takes 6 years of school/internship after college and the starting pay is 65-75k, they aren’t doing it for the money.

From what I’ve seen, and I’m not an expert, the meta analyses show that CBT has a success rate for treating clinical depression somewhere in the ballpark of 70%. Interestingly, regular exercise seems to be about as efficacious for treating depression as anti-depressants.

Therapy isn’t a magic bullet but it works; you would be hard pressed to find too many people who are educated on the topic who would recommend against therapy. I can personally say that I went to see a psychologist for a few months, it was helpful, and at no point did the therapist push anti-depressants on me nor was I prescribed any.

Maga, it’s very clear from your posts that you don’t trust doctors to help you with your issues regarding your brain.

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Old 03-19-2019, 02:15 PM   #342342
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Love when taking a shot goes all wrong. Ugh. That's what rolls are for, but feels like the worst time for run bad!

Back to red chips sir!
True story, every shot take up to 10/25 has gone hugely positive for me. Like, to the point of wondering wtf is going on. To this day, my 5/10 shot take is the most Iíve ever won sitting at 5/10.

My 10/25 shot take, I bought in 100bbs (immediately labels you as scared money) and ran it up to about $6k in short order.

Iím sitting there thinking ďIím sitting on a used car. But I canít leave. Iím playing great, running well, and the table is incredible.Ē

I left the casino with zero dollars. That memory stings so much because it is the only unprofitable shot take I have on record.

And the lesson weíve learned class?

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Old 03-19-2019, 02:21 PM   #342343
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MORE.

Be meaner to each other. Thread gets better when insults are directed as opposed to general statements.

Miamicheats it a *****
11t is also a *****
I actually really like squid, he was always a cool guy to me and very helpful.
APD sucks at poker and skiing
Donatello same thing but worse
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:23 PM   #342344
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I think in my biggest session I bought in for $4K and left with $22K 3 hours later when the game broke.

These days I find it a lot easier to lose $10K than win $5K. When I'm "running good" I get like 5 nut flushes and full houses but no one has anything to pay me off, but when I run cold I get stacked left and right.
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Old 03-19-2019, 02:25 PM   #342345
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Well played

Gotta hand it to those "scientists". Data can just go away when you don't like it by playing the "correlation/causation" card.
lol we agree that kids are overprescribed meds in USA.

In my experience with hundreds of kids/families, there are some kids who truly benefit.

In my experience with hundreds of kids/families, I have never seen evidence that a medication caused horrific behavior or suicide attempts. Has it happened? Probably. But that doesn't mean that a) meds also prevent tragedies sometimes, and b) many kids who do horrible things may have been taking meds that simply did not benefit them (vs *caused* bad outcomes).
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I think in my biggest session I bought in for $4K and left with $22K 3 hours later when the game broke.

These days I find it a lot easier to lose $10K than win $5K. When I'm "running good" I get like 5 nut flushes and full houses but no one has anything to pay me off, but when I run cold I get stacked left and right.


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Old 03-19-2019, 02:32 PM   #342347
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So, who in chat is familiar with tableau?

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Old 03-19-2019, 02:33 PM   #342348
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To anyone calling me an "asshat" or more....I am invoking the rubber vs glue defense. Psychiatry and Psychology are responsible for more addictions and more codependent behavior than any other endeavor in history.

It's been mentioned that "therapy only works if you want it to". Ok, and Santa Claus is only real if you believe in him.

If we assume that a person already has the prerequisite motivation, then helping them takes zero effort at all. That's why they need so many damn letters after their name. It's those credentials that get them into the secret club where they get free access to drain the healthcare system. They coddle grown adults and call it "medicine".

Want proof? Who's the most famous psychologist right now? Who's at the top of that pyramid huh? Jordan flipping Peterson.

What's JP's claim to fame? Nothing. He's figured out that all of the accumulated wisdom about human nature, psychology, happiness, virtue, and intrinsic self-worth is codified in archetypal stories.

So JP just goes around telling people **** they already know, and he collects $80K a month in online donations.

And that's the best that the field of psychology has to offer. You think you're gonna get profound and useful life advice from your local-yokel therapist who got his letters from gudger community college?

SABR.....climb a mountain. Stand on top of that thing and scream so loud that your voice echoes off of the walls of every therapist's office on earth. Tell them you won't be their victim.
Tom Cruise ITT...

You are conflating psychology with psychotherapy. Jordan Peterson (ew) is known for research psychology (although he does work as a therapist, also).

I'll repeat - you have valid criticisms of the field, especially re psychiatry (meds).

But when people seek out therapy, and that therapy helps them change the way they think to become more rational, they often get better.

It's not for everyone.

xo

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Old 03-19-2019, 02:39 PM   #342349
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I've simply laid down a challenge asking "WHY should I trust someone with my brain"
You shouldnt, but you should go see a therapist.

Theres nothing conflicting in that sentence because your question is so far removed from the topic at hand.
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MORE.

Be meaner to each other. Thread gets better when insults are directed as opposed to general statements.

Miamicheats it a *****
11t is also a *****
I actually really like squid, he was always a cool guy to me and very helpful.
APD sucks at poker and skiing
Donatello same thing but worse
I donít even remember the rest of you cause yíall are so irrelevant


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