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Old 03-15-2019, 05:23 PM   #342151
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What do they say about “The Man in the Arena” again?
Good old Teddy... lulz.

Mind you, I merely point out that it would be extremely difficult for the game to exist where half are winning. Not whether or not that the losers are good, though not good enough. You see the difference, yes?

I'd be pretty shocked to find that more then 10-15% of the player pool in 5/T and up are meaningfully profitable for more than some reasonable number of hours.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:29 PM   #342152
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Good old Teddy... lulz.

Mind you, I merely point out that it would be extremely difficult for the game to exist where half are winning. Not whether or not that the losers are good, though not good enough. You see the difference, yes?

I'd be pretty shocked to find that more then 10-15% of the player pool in 5/T and up are meaningfully profitable for more than some reasonable number of hours.
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It's true.

Not more than half of the player POOL are winning players, but it's not unusual for an actual table at any given time to contain 5 or more players who are winning players overall, because winning players tend to play more hours.

Compared to low stakes, the losing players at high stakes lose much faster (because there are more competent players to exploit all of their mistakes), and winrates between pros run much closer. This is why I'm essentially calling BS on anyone claiming to win at 10bb/hr at $5/10 and higher. Sure they might do it over a year or even two (because you can definitely run bad for that long as well), but it's not their EV. There just isn't that much dead money to go around.
There are more losers than winners, but the losers usually don't play everyday and might just show up once a week to dump, etc...
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:36 PM   #342153
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Tried to write up 3 different responses but all kinda failed (all sounded too condescending / trite / uninformed, which they probably all were).

All I can do is wish you the best of luck SABR (noting that very little of that wish applies to how you happen to run at the poker table, although I hope it goes well there too).

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Old 03-15-2019, 05:47 PM   #342154
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I randomly woke up in a good mood today (first time in weeks honestly), and made myself a giant glass of oolong tea. Time to do this **** again.
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Old 03-15-2019, 05:53 PM   #342155
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All my best to you as well SABR.
I’m not gonna pretend that I can write something that will change where you’re at right now. When I’m depressed it usually just annoys me when people try to give uplifting or motivational advice. The only thing I will say is that I know there’s people who care about me more than I realize when I feel ****ed up, and I’m sure the same applies to you.
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:05 PM   #342156
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I randomly woke up in a good mood today (first time in weeks honestly), and made myself a giant glass of oolong tea. Time to do this **** again.


Ha good for you.

I had two deals fall over yesterday, (one of them a big one that was actually closed 6 weeks ago) made me break my diet and also drink and I woke with an anxiety episode at 2am and never get back to sleep
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:10 PM   #342157
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Fwiw $5/10 as little as 3 years ago was very different and I think I legitimately had an expectation of 10bb/hr back then. It wasn't uncommon for there to be 4-5 fish at a table, only 2-3 pros, and they weren't good at all.

Now every $5/10 game I play in has minimum 3 Euro pros with some Pokerstars and solver backgrounds. Some of them can be naive when it comes to live poker but in general those guys are tough to beat. Basically every reg at $10/20+ now has decent knowledge of GTO now though. You get weeded out pretty fast if you don't.
I really think one of your better options would be to travel more and see what your options are. What you are describing does not exist in Florida or the Midwest.
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:38 PM   #342158
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SABR, have you explained why you're so focused on expert mode poker? Do you have a minimum income requirement? A deep abiding luv for LA? Have you tried the devil's game, where they deal you 4 cards and most of the table wants to donate?
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:45 PM   #342159
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These are the real questions
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:47 PM   #342160
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The Wynn 5/10 regs 3bet me a lot preflop even when I say I donít like when they do it


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Old 03-15-2019, 06:52 PM   #342161
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Dude the Wynn was a different universe from every other game I played.

I got cold 4bet before I even sat down.
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:57 PM   #342162
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Dude the Wynn was a different universe from every other game I played.

I got cold 4bet before I even sat down.


Just have AA sounds like an easy game to beat!


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Old 03-15-2019, 07:11 PM   #342163
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Yes, but one must be truly balanced even there and fold-pre the rockets occasionally.
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Old 03-15-2019, 07:13 PM   #342164
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Or, get up and literally walk to the B, which is what I did.

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Old 03-15-2019, 08:07 PM   #342165
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:10 PM   #342166
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SABR, have you explained why you're so focused on expert mode poker? Do you have a minimum income requirement? A deep abiding luv for LA? Have you tried the devil's game, where they deal you 4 cards and most of the table wants to donate?
1) It's no fun for me otherwise.
2) I don't spend a lot of money these days but obv want to save up more money for security. Not been happening.
3) I don't consider myself very competent at 4-card poker and I know that game has more variance which hasn't really encouraged me to learn it.
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:16 PM   #342167
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Meh...you still talk about winning tournaments
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:20 PM   #342168
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Meh...you still talk about winning tournaments
Damn... I could have thought of that....

Fail....
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:21 PM   #342169
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Come to think of it, I played 2 tournaments last year for -$20K (WSOP ME obv and another WPT $10K), so I guess I'm not doing quite as badly at cash when taking that into consideration!

Woohoo!
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Old 03-15-2019, 08:47 PM   #342170
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Wow you’re just gonna come at the 2016 Maryland Live $ 300 No Limit Hold'em - Black Chip Bounty champion like that huh?

Turtle isn’t allowed in my bink pic this summer.
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Wow youíre just gonna come at the 2016 Maryland Live $ 300 No Limit Hold'em - Black Chip Bounty champion like that huh?

Turtle isnít allowed in my bink pic this summer.
Can I be in the bust one?
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:19 PM   #342172
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I kid, RG. You're gonna kick ass this summer, glglgl.
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